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clevohardcore
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Quote: | Originally posted by Shootingscars
two sides to every story....could have been a hit, some vigilante justice; maybe the guy that got killed raped someone's child. would it still be
fucked up if he deserved it? c'mon, who hasn't at least thought about cutting off someone's head? |
^^^^^^^^ Dude, ya if it were some mafia type whatever who did terrible things himself. Sure, we would all agree to some extent it was what was coming.
However, Capone or whoever would not have done that and stayed around to get arrested. Also, that is one stupid fucking douchebag of a hitman to not
be able to escape the bus after he did his "hit". Come on man, be serious. Not one of us know what caused it, but things point to him being just a
fucked up person and this dude was just sleeping.
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yeah, probably just a wackjob, but fucking with someone's kids could drive a man to do that.
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clevohardcore
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Quote: | Originally posted by Shootingscars
yeah, probably just a wackjob, but fucking with someone's kids could drive a man to do that. |
^^^^^ I will totally agree with that one.
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Six66Mike
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This hasn't touched Australian news this morning at all, I watched 2 channels but nothing yet. Kinda disappointing, this shit should make headlines
globally today.
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
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DeathByForce
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Yeah, this is brutal. I've been following this all morning. I am taking the Greyhound from Edmonton thru Winnipeg next week. Fuuuck.
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mikeoffbase
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And no one on the bus tried to stop the guy from stabbing the other guy?
Disgraceful and very sad.
The victim may have very well lived had some poeple on the bus ganged up on the attacker.
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Quote: | Originally posted by mikeoffbase
And no one on the bus tried to stop the guy from stabbing the other guy?
Disgraceful and very sad.
The victim may have very well lived had some poeple on the bus ganged up on the attacker. |
agreed
it bothers me when shit like this happens and no one steps up
you come at the king....you best not miss
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Six66Mike
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I wanna know what music this kid was listening to and if that's what set the dude off.
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
- Paul Morris, music director at 97.7 HTZ-FM
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Quote: | Originally posted by gavin
Quote: | Originally posted by mikeoffbase
And no one on the bus tried to stop the guy from stabbing the other guy?
Disgraceful and very sad.
The victim may have very well lived had some poeple on the bus ganged up on the attacker. |
agreed
it bothers me when shit like this happens and no one steps up |
That's the result of a society where it's all about looking after #1 first and foremost. You can't expect people to step up, even in supposedly
egalitarian Canada. No one's going to put their life on the line to save anyone in a situation like that. Besides, most of the folks that ride
Greyhound are usually already scraping the bottom of the barrel humanity wise(I've ridden).
It's a scary world we live in and it's only getting scarier. All types of shit. Fucked up depraved people, morally bankrupt folks everywhere willing
to do anything to get themselves ahead, warmongering world leaders who are convinced that their warmongering ways are doing what's best and right, and
all the while as a species we are jumping headlong into environmental disaster and there're plenty of world leaders in total denial about it let alone
individuals. I think the vast majority of us(humanity) are going to be dead in a few hundred years.
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DeathByForce
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What's been said is that the guy stabbed the kid in the neck. Yeah.. he wasn't going to live.
Honestly, I can respect your guys incentive but given the situation, I'd have bolted off the bus too. Especially since it was the middle of the
night. I'd not be willing to risk my personal safety over something like that. They did go back into the bus, in a group, by then the man was seen
holding head in one hand and knife in the other. That's horror movie shit and will probably hunt those people.
You can say they should've helped but whatever. They acted on instinct.
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clevohardcore
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Quote: | Originally posted by gavin
Quote: | Originally posted by mikeoffbase
And no one on the bus tried to stop the guy from stabbing the other guy?
Disgraceful and very sad.
The victim may have very well lived had some poeple on the bus ganged up on the attacker. |
agreed
it bothers me when shit like this happens and no one steps up |
^^^^^^^ everytime I see an interview with those people I think the same fucking thing. Its like that guy may have been thinking someone must help him,
but never did. That is just fucking sad.
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clevohardcore
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Quote: | Originally posted by DeathByForce
What's been said is that the guy stabbed the kid in the neck. Yeah.. he wasn't going to live.
Honestly, I can respect your guys incentive but given the situation, I'd have bolted off the bus too. Especially since it was the middle of the
night. I'd not be willing to risk my personal safety over something like that. They did go back into the bus, in a group, by then the man was seen
holding head in one hand and knife in the other. That's horror movie shit and will probably hunt those people.
You can say they should've helped but whatever. They acted on instinct. |
^^^^^^^^ I agree with this as wel. The fact is no one should ever be put in that position ever. THis si why we have no clear view. I hate this
situation and the fact that it even happened.
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Blood sprayed up to 10 feet while this guy was stabbing this other dude. I think it's safe to say that this poor fella was beyond repair the second
everyone realised what was happening and the self preservation kicked in.
They did go back onto the bus after all the passengers were off and the crazy guy was sawing buddys head off and gutting his body. Fists are one
thing but a Rambo Knife is another.
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There's no chance anyone had to save this kid, seriously. Before anyone know wtf was happening, he would have been beyond help.
None of the 3 major networks mentioned this during the 6:00 news tonight, just SBS did (sorta like a PBS station). I didn't watch the government
owned ABC news but I doubt they would have showed it. Nobody knew about this all day except everyone I sent the links to.
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
- Paul Morris, music director at 97.7 HTZ-FM
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clevohardcore
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This is the MYPSPACE of the guy that was murdered.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewpro...
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poor guy. Just seemed like an easy going kid trying to have fun with his life.
MM.
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Sorry, you don't walk away from a situation like that. They went back on the bus but the guys head was already chopped off? How long do you
suppose it takes to chop off someones head with a knife? A LONG time. What if the guy decided to come after someone else? Would everyone run
away again?
Sorry, this is b.s. Someone should have done something.
Unfortunatly, I've witnessed someone being stabbed with a 6" blade up close and personal. Walking away wasn't an option. What the hell was the
matter with these people?
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clevohardcore
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more information of the monsters court appearance
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080801/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_s...
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This really isn't all that shocking.
And talk is cheap, until you are in that situation you don't know how the fuck you're going to react.
The last time I heard of a civilian hero was when the guy jumped on EL/Subway tracks to save someone who fell down from a seizure and that is A LOT
different than a nutcase stabbing someone in the neck for no good reason.
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Six66Mike
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Quote: | Originally posted by mikeoffbase
Sorry, you don't walk away from a situation like that. They went back on the bus but the guys head was already chopped off? How long do you
suppose it takes to chop off someones head with a knife? A LONG time. What if the guy decided to come after someone else? Would everyone run
away again?
Sorry, this is b.s. Someone should have done something.
Unfortunatly, I've witnessed someone being stabbed with a 6" blade up close and personal. Walking away wasn't an option. What the hell was the
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You've got no clue.
A lot of people ask me what kind of music I like. I love "soul music". My "soul music" isn’t a style, genre or niche. It’s music that is genuine. It’s
a painful lyric, a dirty bassline, it’s a harrowing vocal, it’s feedback, it’s an anthem, it’s a love song, it’s anarchy. I’ve got my personal
favourites but in the end it doesn’t matter who or where it comes from... so long as it’s good and it's real.
- Paul Morris, music director at 97.7 HTZ-FM
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clevohardcore
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IF he was going after more people then absolutely you must stop him, but the victim had no chance unless there reaction was attack the killer right
off the bat. However, wha tare the chacnes of that when your sleeping and woken up by that attack.
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There are three things I don't do in public; shit, sleep, and drop my guard.
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clevohardcore
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Quote: | Originally posted by barc0debaby
There are three things I don't do in public; shit, sleep, and drop my guard. |
^^^^^^^^ this is commendable.
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" Aug 05, 2008 02:56 PM
THE CANADIAN PRESS
PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Man. – A man accused of stabbing and beheading a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus has been ordered to undergo a psychiatric
evaluation after pleading in court for someone to kill him.
Vince Weiguang Li, 40, is charged with second-degree murder in the death last Wednesday of Tim McLean.
Li stared at the ground and wouldn’t speak during much of today’s court appearance.
Court heard how, since his arrest, Li has refused to speak with justice officials and a legal aid lawyer assigned to his case.
When a judge asked him if he wanted a lawyer, Li shook his head no and then quietly said “please kill me.”
Li’s remark was heard by reporters and confirmed by court clerks but was not acknowledged by the judge. He is due back in court Sept. 8.
Witnesses have said that a passenger stabbed then beheaded McLean in an apparently unprovoked attack that has generated headlines around the world.
Li, a former newspaper delivery man from Edmonton who recently immigrated to Canada from China, has not entered a plea on the charge. "
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