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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 02:16 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28655143/?GT1=43001

CPS removed those kids with the Nazi names. Though the don't say exactly why, they could not have been removed just for the names, that's illegal, so there had to be something else going on.
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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 02:18 PM


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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 02:29 PM


oh, man. i think we all assume we know why that happened, but i wonder if there were other issues.


what do you think? is being raised in an environment of discrimination reason enough to remove children from their parents' care? would a child do better living in that type of environment or under someone else's care, despite the drama of the removal and separation?





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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 02:34 PM


I imagine that they were watching them closely and they fucked up somehow.



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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 02:42 PM


BD- The Nazi stuff is not enough to have them removed legally. First amendment rights protect you, as far as being able to teach your children anything you like.
My suspicison is that there were drugs involved or neglect or something. They really shouldn't have brought all that attention upon themselves.

As far as trauma to the children.. it's really hard to say. Almost all studies show that it is better for kids to stay with their parents, even if the parents barely make a D- as far as their parenting goes....
However, who can really say how bad their lives would be due to the enviorment they are being rasied in. You have to know that these parents are not intelligent decent people anyway.... so I would think all of that will be passed down, and probably all 3 kids will be screwed up in some way or another, regardless of where they end up.


They will probably be returned to the parents at some point. The bigotry is not enough to keep them out of the home. (legally) Now... if they happen to get a black/ jewish judge.... who knows what could happen.
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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 03:32 PM


You need a licensee and a test to drive a car, but any old worthless fuck can being kids into the world. Sometimes I pray for the end of humanity.

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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 03:35 PM


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I imagine that they were watching them closely and they fucked up somehow.



^^^ This is my guess. I doubt it's just the stupidity of naming your kid "Aryan Nations". And it wouldn't surprise me to find out there was some sort of neglect, abuse, drugs, etc going on that got them popped.




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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 03:37 PM


i'm wondering if they argued that naming the kid adolf hitler in and of itself was abuse.




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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 03:56 PM


I am going to make the assumption, based on the evidence, that they are trailer trash of the worst kind. Which in my trailer park experiences, leads me to believe that the father or a creepy uncle were unlicensed pediatricians practicing their love for children at home.



Could be the name thing though....
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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 07:20 PM


Yet another sad thing about this is that if they grow up away from their parents after being forcibly removed from the home I have a feeling that they'll be more likely to hold onto the fucked up ideology their parents taught them and named them for than if they had stayed in the home.



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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 07:27 PM


That is a good point, when the kids get older this kinda thing would give their parents an argument to make about the government invading their privacy, the system being biased against whites and run by dirty minorities, blah blah blah. Kinda like Waco and Mcveigh, maybe not as severe of an outcome, but the actions that the government took definitely reinforced some assbackwards ideas that Mcveigh was harboring.
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[*] posted on 1-14-2009 at 07:55 PM


The State had no right to take the kids based on the names alone. It had to be something more which is truly sad. I would rather they name their kids nazi names and otherwise treat them well and the kids get to stay with their parents. Going into the system is never good for kids, unfortunately it is sometimes better than the alternative. If you are bad enough to have your kids taken, you should be spayed or nuetered and serve some kind of penalty. But no, they can just go out and squirt more pups. MM is right, it might be better for society if there was some kind of screening and licensing process in place for people trying to procreate. I know it goes against our liberties, but I would sacrifice a little of my personal freedom to ensure children were being born to apt parents who really wanted to do the right thing. Unfortunately, it would not end their. Give em an inch they take a mile.
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