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Obama's speech
Dude was on point last night.
Just sayin.
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I only read about it but from what I can gather, is he laid it out there and basically said, "Look, this ain't going to be easy. We are fucked right
now so get off your asses."
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I do not envy his position. He came into office with a fucked up economy. The difficulty for him is people have such high hopes for Obama, and as
hard as he might try, he can't fix everything. Many people seem to think he's some kind of saviour that's going to come in and fix the whole country
with a wave of his hand, while in reality it's going to take years.
‘Do you know what a love letter is? It’s a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.’
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Hey, he either fixes shit and comes out a hero, or he doesn't and still is a hero.
Each aspect of the soul has it's own part to play, but the ideal is harmonious agreement with reason and control.
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Obama is a master of the speech, but I still ain't convinced that he is nothing but just that. Slick Willy could charm your pants off but he was as
crooked as they come. “That’s why today, I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office.” He knows he's
already got it locked down for 2012, gonna shuck and jive the people for a solid 8.
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Quote: | Originally posted by barc0debaby
Obama is a master of the speech, but I still ain't convinced that he is nothing but just that. Slick Willy could charm your pants off but he was as
crooked as they come. “That’s why today, I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office.” He knows he's
already got it locked down for 2012, gonna shuck and jive the people for a solid 8. |
^^^^^^^^ Bush did it in 04 with his fear tactics. Vote for me or lose your country.
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Time will tell but thus far he is handling his presidency well. IMHO
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Obama's Health Care Reform
Man, I would love to see where this goes!
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So would I. I was just checking NYTIMES and they posted it 10 minutes ago. I am so in favor of socialization right now. Take form the greedy bastards
to help out those they robbed.
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Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
So would I. I was just checking NYTIMES and they posted it 10 minutes ago. I am so in favor of socialization right now. Take form the greedy bastards
to help out those they robbed. |
dangerous
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Quote: | Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
So would I. I was just checking NYTIMES and they posted it 10 minutes ago. I am so in favor of socialization right now. Take form the greedy bastards
to help out those they robbed. |
dangerous |
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Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
Quote: | Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
So would I. I was just checking NYTIMES and they posted it 10 minutes ago. I am so in favor of socialization right now. Take form the greedy bastards
to help out those they robbed. |
dangerous |
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Socialism is a slippery slope that leads to unimaginable abuses of power if not kept in check. You think our Government is corrupt now? If things went
that way it would get ALOT worse. I am in no way some 50's throwback McCarthy Commie scare type. I actually hope the President lifts the Cuban
sanctions and gets past all that old bullshit. I just don't like the idea of socialism when it is run by man. As a theory it is perfect. When executed
historically.........eh........not so much.
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I could use some health care right about now...
my wife and son have both been sick for about 2 weeks and we ain't got no money for no doctors...
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If our economic system was balanced, between capitalist and nationalized enterprises. I could get behind socialized health care, power and water, and
even to a limited extent the big 3 auto cartels. But financial institutions, consumer products, and especially information and communication services
should never be touched.
My biggest beef with Obama is his ideas for a civilian defense force:
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national
security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."- Straight from the horses mouth.
This is a scary idea, I don't like compare to modern day politics to that of the National Socialist party, as it seems like all to often people just
blurt out someone is a Nazi because of differing views. The idea of a well armed and funded civilian security force is much to close to the Brown
Shirts of Hitlers early rise to power.
Besides the abuses that are possible domestically with a civilian defense force, it seems like it would allow for easier abuse of the military on the
international stage for promoting economical and political agendas of big business. I don't think it is that far fetched of an idea that lobbyists
would be more inclined to push for the misuse of the military for profit if another entity was assuming the primary responsibility of the military
which is national safety.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
Quote: | Originally posted by Siczine.com
Quote: | Originally posted by Voodoobillyman
Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
So would I. I was just checking NYTIMES and they posted it 10 minutes ago. I am so in favor of socialization right now. Take form the greedy bastards
to help out those they robbed. |
dangerous |
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Socialism is a slippery slope that leads to unimaginable abuses of power if not kept in check. You think our Government is corrupt now? If things went
that way it would get ALOT worse. I am in no way some 50's throwback McCarthy Commie scare type. I actually hope the President lifts the Cuban
sanctions and gets past all that old bullshit. I just don't like the idea of socialism when it is run by man. As a theory it is perfect. When executed
historically.........eh........not so much. |
Its been working okay for us, sure it's not perfect, but I figure its better than most got right now.
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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I aint for SOCIALISM as a whole. BUT FUCK ALL THESE ASSHOLES THAT ARE TAKING THESE HANDOUTS AND NOT EXPECTING ANY OF US TO BE AT THE VERY LEAST
HEALTHY. FUck all of em. People are poor and weak. Sick and starving and motherfuckers are lapping it up in the government and certain industries.
Fuck em if they can't stay afloat. We sink if we fuck up right? Since they get theres then I think all of us should get ours. Its fucked up, but man
"SOMETHINGS GOTTA GIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Seriously, its all a mess and we are struggling to survive in a sea of mess they created.
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barcode:
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obama_planning_a_ge...
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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That website is awesome. I usually try to get both sides of the story, but all the info I could find on Obama's statements were negative. Thanks BD.
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Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
I aint for SOCIALISM as a whole. BUT FUCK ALL THESE ASSHOLES THAT ARE TAKING THESE HANDOUTS AND NOT EXPECTING ANY OF US TO BE AT THE VERY LEAST
HEALTHY. FUck all of em. People are poor and weak. Sick and starving and motherfuckers are lapping it up in the government and certain industries.
Fuck em if they can't stay afloat. We sink if we fuck up right? Since they get theres then I think all of us should get ours. Its fucked up, but man
"SOMETHINGS GOTTA GIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Seriously, its all a mess and we are struggling to survive in a sea of mess they created. |
lol...someone call for help. Rick ta Life jacked Clevos PC.
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i hear ya, barcode.
same for me when i first started searching for that quote you posted.
it seems like there are SO many online media outlets either 1) pushing an agenda or 2) striving for attention (read: ad impressions) that it's
increasingly difficult to find reliable sources.
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
Quote: | Originally posted by clevohardcore
I aint for SOCIALISM as a whole. BUT FUCK ALL THESE ASSHOLES THAT ARE TAKING THESE HANDOUTS AND NOT EXPECTING ANY OF US TO BE AT THE VERY LEAST
HEALTHY. FUck all of em. People are poor and weak. Sick and starving and motherfuckers are lapping it up in the government and certain industries.
Fuck em if they can't stay afloat. We sink if we fuck up right? Since they get theres then I think all of us should get ours. Its fucked up, but man
"SOMETHINGS GOTTA GIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Seriously, its all a mess and we are struggling to survive in a sea of mess they created. |
lol...someone call for help. Rick ta Life jacked Clevos PC.
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I don't know how I came across this thread, but that shit made me almost piss my pants.
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Hahaha. I started reading the thread all "hmm, what speech?" Then I noticed most of the dates. WTF barcode? That Rick Ta Life thing is hilarious
though.
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I entered too vague of a search criteria and this is where I ended up.
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That's awesome though.
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