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[*] posted on 6-17-2009 at 07:51 PM


well, here's the guy who put the stars on her face.



here's another story: http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/06/seeing-stars-te...

and here's one with a video: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8104645.stm


there is one thing that is making me believe she asked for the tattoo... if you notice at the end of the video, the artist is sitting behind his portfolio with a picture of her after it was done. if she really freaked out about the piece - like most people would if they didn't agree to it - i find it hard to believe she was calm and happy when he took a photo at the end.

still, dude never should've agreed to do it. but maybe he was hoping she'd be his bride.




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[*] posted on 6-17-2009 at 08:31 PM


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personal accountability once again proves to be an antiquated notion. fuck her.



she's 18
can you or anyone else here honestly say that they are happy with choices thmade at this age?
is she an idiot?....yes
is this ultimately her fault?.....yes
BUT
is the person who did this tattoo free of some of the blame?....no

yes, she should have known better
yes, she is stupid
yes to all of these type of things

but dude has no standards
there is a certain responsibility that need to be taken into account when you are a tattooer.
anyone who will tattoo just anything that they are asked to do because they are getting paid for it shouldn't be in that business to begin with.
there are judgement calls to be made.
if one is unable to make these judgment calls they are in the wrong business.


sorry bro, but you completely missed my point. i don't believe for a minute she 1) didn't know what she was getting or 2) fell asleep. she regretted her decision, most likely due to pressure from her boyfriend and father (according to the article). where the personal accountability comes into it is where she decides to sue the tattooist for her stupid decision. that's everything wrong with society these days. nobody fucks up and lives with their decisions anymore, everything is someone else's fault. fuck that nonsense. you fuck up? too bad, there are consequences to bad decisions. if you are legal age and get a bad tattoo, that's your fault. you being legally an adult is where the tattooist's legal responsibility ends. is tattooing an eighteen year old girls face something i think he should be doing? fuck no, but my moral judgments aren't the same as everyone else. the point is moot in the grand scheme of things. the two things are mutally exclusive.




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[*] posted on 6-17-2009 at 09:02 PM


Fuck that, I would never pay a dude that looked like that for any kind of service.


I agree with Gavin 100%. The artist is responsible not just as someone who understands the repercussions of getting inked in such a visible spot, but also to cover his own ass so that shit like that doesn't happen.

First piece I got done on my hands, I had two artists in the shop questioning and making sure that I understood how it could affect me and that I was fully prepared to take that step.

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[*] posted on 6-17-2009 at 09:11 PM


i'll throw out a new angle on the discussion... what do you guys think of artists who do nazi / white power tats?

it's only a partially hypothetical question. the guy who did the stuff i have told me about a 16 or 17 year old kid who wanted a swazi tat, and it was legal to tattoo someone that age with parental permission. artist said the mom clearly wasn't into it and basically took the kid to the studio knowing the artists would refuse. and she was right. they refused and explained that what they do is permanent and that they don't feel comfortable with that kind of work, especially on a minor.






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[*] posted on 6-17-2009 at 10:00 PM


Alot of artist who do such tattoos are already open too if not involved in far right politics.
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[*] posted on 6-17-2009 at 10:02 PM


I say an artist should go over with the person, question, making sure they know that it is premamnent, etc but after all is said and done, it is the persons ultimate decision and even if the artist doesn't even ask one question I say he should not be accountable at all. People wanna be fucking idiots, they should pay the price.



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[*] posted on 6-17-2009 at 10:03 PM


edit: damn, XnMeX posted between our comments

yeah, that's kinda my point. there's a commonly-accepted professional policy regarding personal responsibility when it comes to that kind of work, and i don't see why that's so different from face/neck/hand pieces. but from the other arguments on this thread, the expected response is "fuck it, they know the possibilities, consent, and pay... so the artist has no reason to oppose."




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[*] posted on 6-18-2009 at 08:56 PM


okay I stole this from someone else but god damn it's funny

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[*] posted on 6-18-2009 at 09:48 PM


Not sure if anyone posted this and am to lazy to go back and find out but when has anyone ever got a tattoo when they didnt get to see the outline first before the artist went ahead with it. Fuck even if they draw it on, you still see what they draw, no way you mistake 3 stars for 56 either, fuck her take some responsibility for yourself.



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[*] posted on 6-22-2009 at 03:10 PM


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[*] posted on 6-22-2009 at 03:29 PM


I really dislike people like her.



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[*] posted on 6-22-2009 at 04:13 PM


wow, she lied? i didn't see that one coming in the least. not even a little bit. once again, fuck her.



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