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[*] posted on 11-17-2010 at 10:13 PM
what was the first 'hardcore' band?


based on my other thread about 'punk'... thoughts? opinions?



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[*] posted on 11-17-2010 at 10:30 PM


That's tough I know a lot of people say black flag, but i still think they were punk or more hardcore punk than straight hardcore. In my opinion its probably someone in the second kind of wave of those bands like minor threat. but still i think a lot of it comes down to opinion



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[*] posted on 11-17-2010 at 10:40 PM


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[*] posted on 11-17-2010 at 10:43 PM


Bad Brains on the east, Middle Class on the west. Who wins? Middle Class had the first record out as far as I'm concerned, but Bad Brains defined it and have NEVER been bested. In their prime, they were fucking untouchable.



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[*] posted on 11-17-2010 at 11:17 PM


I suppose it would depend on one's definition of the term "hardcore".....
I will have to sleep on this.
hell, it happened when I was like 3 or 4 I guess.
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[*] posted on 11-18-2010 at 01:26 AM


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[*] posted on 11-18-2010 at 02:12 AM


BAD BRAINS






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[*] posted on 11-18-2010 at 06:07 AM


Bad Brains on the East Coast - 1979/80
Black Flag on the West Coast - 1979/80

Do Middle Class pre-date Black Flag???





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[*] posted on 11-18-2010 at 06:16 AM


Bad Brains in CERTAIN WAYS,yes...I will never take away,nor dismiss,what they contributed...They brought the soul,and the speed,NO DOUBT...But,as in HEAVY-HOLY-CRAP???

DISCHARGE.

Their first Ep's were hard,but you try listening to the WHY? Ep/Lp?? That record changed my life.

That record SCARED people.





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[*] posted on 11-18-2010 at 08:52 AM


I like these threads a lot cause if nothing else its inspiring me to find some new/old music to listen to!



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[*] posted on 11-18-2010 at 04:15 PM


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Bad Brains on the East Coast - 1979/80
Black Flag on the West Coast - 1979/80

Do Middle Class pre-date Black Flag???



Yup. Middle Class started in '76, and the first 7" (Out of Vogue) is from very early '78 (Jan or Feb I think). If you've never heard it type it into a Youtube search, I think it's on there. While Greg had musical things going in 76, the actual Black Flag band wasn't around then. The Nervous Breakdown ep was '78 but later than the MC 7". And this is where personal opinion comes into it a bit too, but to me as great as the Nervous Breakdown ep was (and it definitely is one of my favorite records ever), I see it as more of a raw punk record. Definitely a sign of things to come (and a shift away from 76/77 punk), but soundwise Out of Vogue really sounds like it came out at the same time as the classic first wave of hardcore punk but obviously it predates it by a couple of years.




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[*] posted on 11-19-2010 at 12:25 AM


I have never been able to enjoy Bad Brains.
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[*] posted on 11-19-2010 at 07:34 AM


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[*] posted on 11-19-2010 at 01:39 PM


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[*] posted on 11-19-2010 at 09:03 PM


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I have never been able to enjoy Bad Brains.



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[*] posted on 11-19-2010 at 11:14 PM


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I have never been able to enjoy Bad Brains.



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Seriously. This makes my brain hurt. I can understand not enjoying certain Bad Brains songs or even some of their later albums, but not digging them as a whole makes about as much sense to me as not liking to breathe air.



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[*] posted on 11-19-2010 at 11:19 PM


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I have never been able to enjoy Bad Brains.



:(


Seriously. This makes my brain hurt. I can understand not enjoying certain Bad Brains songs or even some of their later albums, but not digging them as a whole makes about as much sense to me as not liking to breathe air.


Yup, exactly.




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[*] posted on 11-19-2010 at 11:22 PM


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I have never been able to enjoy Bad Brains.


I felt the same way for years after hearing them. Always said "They don't suck, it's just not for me." Then I gave them another chance recently. Sooooooooo glad I did.
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[*] posted on 11-20-2010 at 02:28 AM


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damn, I was gonna give the same sarcastic answer.....


Sarcastic? No way that's 100% truth. :wink2:




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[*] posted on 11-20-2010 at 06:53 AM


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I have never been able to enjoy Bad Brains.


same here. i must say i like their live dvd from cbgbīs, but i canīt listen to their records. they have a few hits - right brigade is a killer tune- but there will be no love for this band.




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[*] posted on 11-21-2010 at 12:06 AM


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I have never been able to enjoy Bad Brains.



:(


Seriously. This makes my brain hurt. I can understand not enjoying certain Bad Brains songs or even some of their later albums, but not digging them as a whole makes about as much sense to me as not liking to breathe air.


I know guys, I know. They just haven't been able to move me. I'm not a real "old school" guy. BB, just never grabbed me. Not sure why but just never did.
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[*] posted on 11-21-2010 at 09:26 PM


i have to agree with Paulie on the discharge shit was sick....Negative Approach set an attitude that can't be be beat along with Poision Idea Pick Your Kings ep...



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[*] posted on 11-21-2010 at 10:11 PM


Quote:
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Originally posted by MikeFromInhuman
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I have never been able to enjoy Bad Brains.



:(


Seriously. This makes my brain hurt. I can understand not enjoying certain Bad Brains songs or even some of their later albums, but not digging them as a whole makes about as much sense to me as not liking to breathe air.


I've never liked BB either. I like their early stuff musically, but I never liked HR's vocals. When they brought in the reggae sounds it just furthered my dislike for the band because I don't like reggae. That being said, I still think BB deserve all the credit in the world for their impact on hardcore music.




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