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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 05:10 PM
All hail Scott Vogel. (Refused Rant)


I love this so much.

http://www.actionrecon.com/terrors-scott-vogel-if-you-wanna-...

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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 05:20 PM


more stagedives.




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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 07:10 PM


I still like The Shape of Punk to Come.
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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 07:13 PM


I wonder what the Refused members actually did in the past 10ish years, maybe they were at a lot of shows and buying demo's?

I just saw SOIA & Agnostic Front so I'm kinda all for keeping it up and not stopping, but the opening band reformed recently too and they were fucking amazing. No idea if they still followed and contributed to hardcore while they were split up.




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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 07:22 PM


Glad he's got time in his day to keep track of other bands activities...
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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 08:07 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent  
Glad he's got time in his day to keep track of other bands activities...

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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 08:10 PM


For what it's worth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refused

Looks like they stayed active in the Swedish scene.

I've never been huge on either band.
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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 10:23 PM


Most of the members were in a band called INTERNATIONAL NOISE CONSPIRACY. I got survival sickness. Saw them play in 2001 and they jammed except for the anarchist/ communist propaganda shit they peddled.

Man I do remember back around 2000 everyone began to wear tight black pants, black jackets or hoodies, and jet black hair cut like they had bowls over there head. Pasty white and pretentious. That was probably the last most annoying thing I remember in the scene. Reminded me of GG's from back in the early 90's. Just annoying dirt bags looking like shit. I'd give up what I saw last weekend for GG's or these douche bags to come back though. The only thing they threatened was with B.O. Especially the GG's.




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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 10:49 PM






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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 04:42 AM


Quote: Originally posted by necrobutcher  

I've never been huge on either band.
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 08:34 AM


Quote: Originally posted by mattybar  
Quote: Originally posted by necrobutcher  

I've never been huge on either band.




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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 08:50 AM


I received that Refused CD as a gift.
Never opened it.
Still in the wrapper in a box somewhere.
I disliked it just for the name itself "the shape of punk to come"
come on
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 09:56 AM


what necrobutcher said
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 10:48 AM


But c'mon, they didn't start a band that sounds like Hatebreed lite and make tape demos and zines and stuff!
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 11:20 AM


Not just INC, some of them also played in hardcore/punk bands (like AC4). Also run a punk record label so its not like they just came back from a 10 year layoff of listening to rap or something just to cash in on HC/punk. They've been in it...just not in the US.
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 01:31 PM


Yeah Scott is talking out of his ass...
Just because they haven't been playing in america doesn't mean they turned their back on hardcore...

so kids like them more now than they did then...
does that make em sell outs...
no
they never even got to tour on that record, so to get back together and do it right seems like fun.

shit at the drive in are cashing in as well this year and they said they are doing it for the money...

it's entertainment and a business.

if you can make money doing what you love, fucking do it

if that means you only play crucial basement shows for life, and you are happy good on ya

if that means you sell out stadiums who the fuck am I to judge.




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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 02:33 PM


I don't much like Terror either.

I don't much like anyone really.
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 04:07 PM


Louis CK said something years ago in a standup comedy Usenet group that I've always thought was great. When someone asked him about a mainstream comic (okay, it was Dane Cook) who started around the same time as he did and has become hugely popular, Louis just replied "His success has nothing to do with my success." In other words, why worry about what someone else is doing? Shut the fuck up and do what you do.



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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 09:30 PM


I love Terror and I have met Scott twice and he was insanely cool.

I have never heard of or heard Refused. Seems odd that he'd talk shit but I'm sure he has his reasons.

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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 09:31 PM


Quote: Originally posted by clevohardcore  


Yeah, I can't down with this. Oh well.
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[*] posted on 5-4-2012 at 09:51 PM





This is the song I most associate Refused with. It's definitely more produced than your average hardcore song, and I wouldn't even call it hardcore really. Who cares what it is. I like it.

Here was the news bit from lambgoat when it was announced they were gonna play Coachella. It sorta touches upon some of their motivations for playing again.

http://lambgoat.com/news/17513/Refused-issues-statement-regarding-reunion-show
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[*] posted on 5-5-2012 at 02:23 AM


Speaking of bands on Burning Heart from Sweden... Raised Fist will forever and always be the best thing ever to come out of that country (if not all of Europe) in terms of hardcore.

Fuck Refused, bring on more Raised Fist albums and tours.

I liked New Noise because the guitar riff was sweet, but having that album I never got into any other songs. Songs To Fan The Flames Of Discontent was a much better album.




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[*] posted on 5-5-2012 at 05:35 AM


I just realized how fucking hilarious this is considering what he's doing...

http://www.actionrecon.com/terror-front-man-to-make-appearan...




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[*] posted on 5-5-2012 at 07:08 AM


Songs to Fan the Flames of Discontent was a hardcore record.



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[*] posted on 5-5-2012 at 12:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by clevohardcore  


Fucking terrible.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:




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