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The Pogues / Dropkick Murphys touring in December
The Pogues have announced the dates and venues for their "now customary Christmas reunion" shows in the UK this December. The influential band will be
supported by Boston's Dropkick Murphys on all dates. The Pogues line-up for the shows will feature Philip Chevron, Darryl Hunt, Spider Stacy, Andrew
Ranken, Terry Woods, James Fearnley and frontman Shane MacGowan.
Monday 12 December Cardiff Indoor Arena
Tuesday 13 December Glasgow Academy
Wednesday 14 December Glasgow Academy
Friday 16 December Newcastle Arena
Saturday 17 December Manchester MEN Arena
Sunday 18 December Birmingham NIA
Tuesday 20 December Brixton Academy
Wednesday 21 December Brixton Academ
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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gavin
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i would love to see this show
i love both of these bands
i love you all
that is all
luv,
geoffrey p. gavin the first
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god damn gas crisis causing airfair to go up meaining no jumping the pond for incredible shows..
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christ, here we go again. i would kill to see 'em and i know if i ever went shane wouldn't show up and i'd have to murder him...
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fire, but I?m just not close enough to get the job done.? George Carlin
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OOOH NO! ol' Shane MacGowan is still alive and kickin', God love 'em!
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he'll be around forever, i think he's pickled or something 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Boycott Christian HC
ah, good.... who was it that died then? the clash singer (???) |
Yes. Joe Strummer died in 2002, at the age of 50.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
he'll be around forever, i think he's pickled or something
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^^^Hilarious, and quite possibly true.
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I"m going...fuck it. I was gonna go last year but didn't for some reason and i've regreted it ever since. I'm fucking going!!!
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yo, if any of you lot are perhaps planning a trip over the pond for this, then come before december 15th.
days of pain are playing with the fucking legendary ANTI NOWHERE LEAGUE in folkestone on this date.
youre welcome to stay at my house and get drunk as cunts before/after the show, and hey, as its the season of goodwill, i'll get ya in the show for
fuck all!
fuck it up.
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fuck, between taxes and the cost of fuel, this shit is expensive! cheapest filght i can find from nyc->lon is $615 on air india (?!) and $783 on
virgin. of course, that does include a return flight on christmas eve...
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Screw the Pogues. Go see DKM in the states. October on the west coast(lucky bastards get to see Darkbuster), November on the east coast(But we get FFF
so ... )
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| Quote: | Originally posted by hollymaconmovies
Screw the Pogues. Go see DKM in the states. October on the west coast(lucky bastards get to see Darkbuster), November on the east coast(But we get FFF
so ... ) |
screw the pogues!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
ummmm that is just unacceptable talk
please take it back
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
| Quote: | Originally posted by hollymaconmovies
Screw the Pogues. Go see DKM in the states. October on the west coast(lucky bastards get to see Darkbuster), November on the east coast(But we get FFF
so ... ) |
screw the pogues!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
ummmm that is just unacceptable talk
please take it back |
Nope. Sorry. The Pogues had their moment. It's over. Great songs for sure, I'm a fan of sorts. But I just don't get out of the Pogues what I get from
Flogging Molly. The Pogues are awesome, but not worthy of a pond jump in my ever so humble opinion.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by hollymaconmovies
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBadVibes
| Quote: | Originally posted by hollymaconmovies
Screw the Pogues. Go see DKM in the states. October on the west coast(lucky bastards get to see Darkbuster), November on the east coast(But we get FFF
so ... ) |
screw the pogues!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
ummmm that is just unacceptable talk
please take it back |
Nope. Sorry. The Pogues had their moment. It's over. Great songs for sure, I'm a fan of sorts. But I just don't get out of the Pogues what I get from
Flogging Molly. The Pogues are awesome, but not worthy of a pond jump in my ever so humble opinion. |
no
this is so very wrong
flogging molly are pretty good
but to say thay are better then the pogues?
no
that dude was in a metal band called fastway when shane was doing his thing
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His thing? The druken irish thing? Fabulous for him.
But LISTEN to flogging molly. Shit. guitar, bass, drums plus the irish influence.
Puh...lease.
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fastway...btw...who cares...a shit metal band...who cares...get where you're going...the details of how you get there mean shit, except to those
looking to throw you down. Fuck those people. Wow, you're sucessful, hmmm I remember when you weren't. Gay. don't pull that card.
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Ouch, Holly. Ouch. I had written a lengthy response to your posts, but in rereading it, it was clear that I was still too emotional.
For now, please let me remind you that not only is Shane widely considered the most important Irish folk singer in a generation, but without him,
there would be no Flogging Molly or Dropkick Murphys or any of the other similarly-themed bands.
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when we are all dead and rotting
shane will still be drunk and singin the same songs
legends never die and since I have never had the chance to see them, this is not a bad idea
but like Big D said, my kids college fund is a little more important at the moment
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BIG DUANE
Ouch, Holly. Ouch. I had written a lengthy response to your posts, but in rereading it, it was clear that I was still too emotional.
For now, please let me remind you that not only is Shane widely considered the most important Irish folk singer in a generation, but without him,
there would be no Flogging Molly or Dropkick Murphys or any of the other similarly-themed bands. |
You should have posted your lengthy response. Emotion is good, maybe I would have learned a thing or two. That said, I've had this arguement before.
Just because they paved the way for bands like FM & DKM, doesn't mean they're better. FM & DKM took what the Pogues did to the next level, and that's
what I love about them.
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duane summed it up and i was tempted as well but i didn't want to come off rude about it. i can't even describe how influential the pogues were. i
love me some flogging molly too and they put on a hell of a show but give credit where credit is due. before the pogues, most people viewed irish
music as silly old folk songs. shane had to forsight to bring a love of irish music into a rock'n'roll context. the closest anyone had come before
that were bands like the dubliners and wolfetones, which were definately a precursor and hugely influential in their own right but the pogues were a
different beast altogether. when the history books are written shane will definately take his place alongside guys like brendan behan and sean o'casey
for the mark they left on irish culture
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fire, but I?m just not close enough to get the job done.? George Carlin
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i was trying to be nice in my arguing
im outta this one for fear of becoming the dick im so often accused of being
im trying to be nice as much as possible nowadays
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Fuck being nice, honesty is so much better.
For my part I'll say this: while I really enjoy the hell out of the Flogging Molly albums, it's incredibly easy (at least on the first couple records)
to go in and see exactly which Pogues song they were ripping off when they wrote it. As for their progression from what I see as a Pogues tribute into
more of their own thing, they have good lyrics in a poetic Irish style, but Shane's are always genius and brilliant without even showing any effort to
get there. Maybe you've listened only to the albums the Pogues put out after Shane left, if so you can almost be forgiven for writing them off, if not
then you really need to take a good listen to albums like Red Roses For Me, Rum, Sodomy and the Lash, and If I Should Fall From Grace With God again
and realize that what you are hearing is not only miles, but planets beyond anything Flogging Molly will ever hope to do. Not only just the songs
themselves, but the fact that there was NOTHING that came before the Pogues in that style. For Flogging Molly, they aren't even the in first
generation of imitators. Since it's clearly not the originality or the songwriting, in what possible way could they be a "better" band?
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Pogues rule. I don't need to explain why, it's all been said already.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tireironsaint
Fuck being nice, honesty is so much better. |
Agreed. At least to the extent I'd rather here what people really have to say, than a flowered up version. Opinions are opinions, and I'm entitled to
mine. I can sometimes be convinced otherwise, but I won't be intimidated out of mine. So if you don't agree with me, let me know it. I'm a big girl, I
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tireironsaint
Since it's clearly not the originality or the songwriting, in what possible way could they be a "better" band? |
I'll get back to you on that one. Right now I have to get to my real homework, which I put off Friday night for my thorp homework.
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