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XHonusWagnerX
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A question about Atreau & all those other 'bands'
Who is the main audience of these bands? Young kids that are to stupid to find real hardcore bands? Fashion core kids that see the shirts at the mall
and figure they have to like it? Older metal guy that just think they are new metal bands? Do any of what I would consider 'actual hardcore kids' like
these bands?
I just dont get it at all! I know some people that have musical opinions that I respect that suddenly made some younger 'emo type' friends and now
they like this stuff. What gives!?!?
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HONUS-as much as i can't stand a great deal of what you really like (for my own reasons that i would never hold,nor impose,against you),YOU FUCKING
RULE!
YOU,HONUS,IS WHAT MAKES THE "EDGE" COOL.
YOUR FRIEND,
PAULIE |
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I have a 16 year old brother who loves this shit,as a matter of fact,he plays in a band of this style.All this stuff is new to him,Atreyu to him,is
like metallica was to me at his age....I always set him straight when he calls his band "Hardcore" though...one day he'll see the light....but shit
man,let the kids have their fun...god know I had mine.Back in the late 80's,if I could pick up a Sheer Terror shirt in the mall...I would have done it
in a minute (instead of waiting 2 months for L&F records to mail me my shit)...and I would have liked to have been able to of seen Slapshot on
Mtv2....but we had none of these luxeries (and I'm now glad we didn't).The scene changes year after year...and mostly for the worse in our eyes...and
it always will.I'd love to see my little brother playing some youth crew old school hardcore stuff...but that just aint gonna happen,he'd rather play
what he plays...god bless him...if it makes him happy...so be it...to each his own.I don't understand the hairstyle,the dancing,the girl pants or the
huge belt buckles...But I'm old and I really don't give a fuck anymore....I don't want it,they can have it,I got a new name for you it's A T R E Y U
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| Quote: | Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
Who is the main audience of these bands? Young kids that are to stupid to find real hardcore bands? Fashion core kids that see the shirts at the mall
and figure they have to like it? Older metal guy that just think they are new metal bands? Do any of what I would consider 'actual hardcore kids' like
these bands?
I just dont get it at all! I know some people that have musical opinions that I respect that suddenly made some younger 'emo type' friends and now
they like this stuff. What gives!?!? |
It's what's deemed as "popular." I don't really care except that it gets called punk or hardcore or emo when it's not. As long as they don't
mislabel it, kids can have it. It's when people who love fall out boy and simple plan tell me they are punk fans when they clearly have no clue what
it is.
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XHonusWagnerX
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joemaconmovies
| Quote: | Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
Who is the main audience of these bands? Young kids that are to stupid to find real hardcore bands? Fashion core kids that see the shirts at the mall
and figure they have to like it? Older metal guy that just think they are new metal bands? Do any of what I would consider 'actual hardcore kids' like
these bands?
I just dont get it at all! I know some people that have musical opinions that I respect that suddenly made some younger 'emo type' friends and now
they like this stuff. What gives!?!? |
It's what's deemed as "popular." I don't really care except that it gets called punk or hardcore or emo when it's not. As long as they don't
mislabel it, kids can have it. It's when people who love fall out boy and simple plan tell me they are punk fans when they clearly have no clue what
it is. |
So then Atreau is basicly POP Music (Pop = Popular Music)
| Quote: | Originally posted by REV.PAULIE
HONUS-as much as i can't stand a great deal of what you really like (for my own reasons that i would never hold,nor impose,against you),YOU FUCKING
RULE!
YOU,HONUS,IS WHAT MAKES THE "EDGE" COOL.
YOUR FRIEND,
PAULIE |
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i think were all getting older and were becoming "those guys" asking "what happened to what we used to love?" its bound to happen eventually, im going
back in time and listening to anything before the nineties at this point, i've gone back to the yardbirds, ramones , the kinks just to get a
perspective on music and production to hear when it was really pure....
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isnt atreu the thing in the never ending story?
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Blame AFI for the makeup. Blame Candiria and Converge for the nerdcore in the hardcore scene. Blame Tool for inventing nerdmetal. then you get
metalcore. O and blame Pantera for being good at making metal and I don't want to say hardcore but making really good metal at least for the records
Vulgar display and far beyond driven.
Each aspect of the soul has it's own part to play, but the ideal is harmonious agreement with reason and control.
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Im mainly asking because a friend whos favorite bands have always been... THE CURE, THE MISFITS, SLAPSHOT, MINERAL, KOOL KEITH, DEFTONES and some
stuff like some Korn, Slipknot etc.... well anyway, shes suddenly singing the praises of Silverstein, Atreau and all that other bullshit! I hate to
see people that KNOW about 'the good stuff' fall into that pit of crap!
| Quote: | Originally posted by REV.PAULIE
HONUS-as much as i can't stand a great deal of what you really like (for my own reasons that i would never hold,nor impose,against you),YOU FUCKING
RULE!
YOU,HONUS,IS WHAT MAKES THE "EDGE" COOL.
YOUR FRIEND,
PAULIE |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by crazyfists28
i think were all getting older and were becoming "those guys" asking "what happened to what we used to love?" its bound to happen eventually, im going
back in time and listening to anything before the nineties at this point, i've gone back to the yardbirds, ramones , the kinks just to get a
perspective on music and production to hear when it was really pure.... |
i hate being that guy.i feel like
my dad sometimes saying those damn kids...getting old and grumpy i guess.
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Atreyu and the like are all basically to hardcore what glam "metal" was to the metal scene back in the 80s. It's all re-hashed At The Gates riffs and
Hatebreed mosh riffs and bad haircuts and eyeliner. It will, without a doubt, die off real quick. Particularly when they all become cookie cutter
types, it's happening now... the waning days have begun.
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^ couldn't have said it better.
the only part that bothers me is when people call those bands hardcore.
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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good job describing it dave.
and josh, i guess it is pop in a way although i hesitate to call it pop. i guess it's just mainstream right now and like dave said, you gotta kinda
ride it out. these bands will fall off the map and people will forget about them. i don't understand that person changing tastes like that but...i
guess it happens. there used to be a girl who was into EARLY dkm and ducky boys and :30 over tokyo and then a few years later she was into really
shitty popular music. it just happens.
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I like Atreyu for the most part. Their first Victory is great. Its has a well written metal with some real good harmonies. I bought their second and
only liked about two songs. Havnt picked up the newest one.
But as for kids overall, I think they get the toughness of metal but with the catchy hooks for the appeal.
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there were alot of cool solos and whatnot on the first, i agree, but they just got too big for their own good
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| Quote: | Originally posted by crazyfists28
there were alot of cool solos and whatnot on the first, i agree, but they just got too big for their own good |
I agree with that. Second one pretty much sucked.
...And you have a great avatar. I miss those days.
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a life of agony fan?!!! hold the presses,thats cool
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaveMoral
Atreyu and the like are all basically to hardcore what glam "metal" was to the metal scene back in the 80s. It's all re-hashed At The Gates riffs and
Hatebreed mosh riffs and bad haircuts and eyeliner. It will, without a doubt, die off real quick. Particularly when they all become cookie cutter
types, it's happening now... the waning days have begun. |
exactly the shit is the modern version of glam metal. i gotta admit though i never liked either genre but it if had to listen to old glam or new i
would take poison or great white over any of that dark eyeliner 3rd rate at the gates meets hatebreed and new found glory garbage. how the fuck can
that shit be even remotely construed as hardcore. Maybe kids have gotten more stupid or just lazier. One step forward two steps back!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by crazyfists28
a life of agony fan?!!! hold the presses,thats cool |
No doubt. River Runs Red is a solid album. It gets fairly regular rotation to this day.
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i might get killed for this but i'm a green day fan and i love the look billie joe has with the eyeliner. i don't mind the eyeliner so much cause it
looks cool.
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Who is the main audience of these bands? |
Gays? |
that's a little harsh. gay people have better taste then that.
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I know some "metalheads" who actually refer to "emo" and "new hardcore" as Progressive metal. It all sounds the same to me really.
Well, its this place where nobody works, and the pigs don\'t give you any shit. Everyone smokes weed and gets drunk all day. Its a place where
cunts like me and you can truly take it easy and relax. Know what I mean?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joemaconmovies
i might get killed for this but i'm a green day fan and i love the look billie joe has with the eyeliner. i don't mind the eyeliner so much cause it
looks cool. |
I think it all stems from that scene in another state of mind when Ness was putting his eyeliner on and describing the reasoning behind it. It's all
about the chicks, they dig it.
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i think the way billie joe from green day wears it makes it look cool. i've never seen ness with it on. i know billie joe didn't create the look,
just that i don't mind it because he doesn't look like a douche when he does it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joemaconmovies
i think the way billie joe from green day wears it makes it look cool. i've never seen ness with it on. i know billie joe didn't create the look,
just that i don't mind it because he doesn't look like a douche when he does it. |
Lets just say Mike ness should own stock in his eyeliners company, the dude wears it constantly. My wife says he looks like a washed up drag queen
these days and she still loves him. Now thats pretty damn good if someone can describe you that way and in the same sentence mention how attractive
you still are. Dude is short as hell too.
3 guys who surprised me with their actual height
Mike ness
Roger Miret
Evan Seinfeld
all real short, not expected from any.
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Dude, how shameless a perv is Evan Seinfeld???? Every broad that shows her face on Supergroup, who isn't even remotely the type, the dude is trying to
get into doing porn or posing for Penthouse or something like that. It's already old with only 2 episodes... damn. And he's just a short fat bald dude
at this point...
I don't mind Green Day, honestly, that's not the shit that bothers me at all. The strange thing about New Found Glory is that some of those dudes were
in an old straight edge hardcore band from Florida called Tension, and one of the guys from Vietnom was in that band too. Weird shit that dudes ended
up doing, mainly to make a buck. I have to admit though, NFG has some videos that crack me up... especially the one that Troma produced.
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