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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 10:07 PM
FUCK HBO


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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 10:11 PM


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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 10:17 PM


greatest ending ever.
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 10:25 PM


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greatest ending ever.


if you are the gayest t.v. show ever....
so we are supposed to guess that he got it from the memebers only jacket guy
when Meadow walked in....

yeah fuck that
show it and be done with it...
again fuck hbo...
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 10:28 PM


I just posted this on another board so I'll cut and paste rather than try to elaborate...my brain is too fried right now. I understand the frustration, I have been with this show from the beginning, but ....

--Yeah maybe they should have done something more original, like a mob guy getting killed or getting busted...that would have really set the world on its ear...how riveting.

David Chase had a million people on the edge of their seats that last 5 minutes, toying with us...just to pull the rug out from under us...this is the kind of ending that generates endless discussion, driven from frustration or not.

He ended one of the greatest shows in television history with one of the boldest most obnoxious moves in television history. We got played. Classic.
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 10:30 PM


Tomorrow Big Love starts again!!!!!
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 10:31 PM


sure we got played, but it's worse then a fucking dream sequence, at least there would be some kind of closeur...
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 10:33 PM


haha no closure for us!!! I could use a drink.
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 11:35 PM


2 things
first if you invested time in reading an 86 chapter novel and the last lines of the last page read, and meadow walked into the resturant. and the writer said that's it you don't find out who lives who dies, who goes to jail, anything....
that writer would never sel lanother book...
I could see them pul lthis shit last week...
oh fuck it would have been great, last week.... not only would we wondering what happened but holy fuck what happened....
but this was just cheap, end a season this way even, not the fucking story....

2nd
what was the point of the last 8 episodes, the mini season....
if I am not mistaken, and I will find the proof somewhere chase wasn't happy with the way the last season ended, which was supposed to be the end, and wanted to bring closure....did he, or did he just milk it....and make 8 episodes for what reason....

big love had betbgood tomrrrow
and the John from Cin was okay, but it's one episode in and no one died yet so that is not good.
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 11:48 PM


and what the fuck was up with tony seeing himself sitting at the table...
bad editing, or seeing his life flash before his eyes
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 11:53 PM


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Originally posted by defstarsteve
2 things
first if you invested time in reading an 86 chapter novel and the last lines of the last page read, and meadow walked into the resturant. and the writer said that's it you don't find out who lives who dies, who goes to jail, anything....
that writer would never sel lanother book...
I could see them pul lthis shit last week...
oh fuck it would have been great, last week.... not only would we wondering what happened but holy fuck what happened....
but this was just cheap, end a season this way even, not the fucking story....

2nd
what was the point of the last 8 episodes, the mini season....
if I am not mistaken, and I will find the proof somewhere chase wasn't happy with the way the last season ended, which was supposed to be the end, and wanted to bring closure....did he, or did he just milk it....and make 8 episodes for what reason....

big love had betbgood tomrrrow
and the John from Cin was okay, but it's one episode in and no one died yet so that is not good.


the last season meaning 6a? or season 5?

I think I get what you're asking. Season 6B, this last 8 episodes...the deal for these was made when season 6A was going into production and its widely believed that they stretched out the gay Vito storyline so long because instead of wrapping up things in 6A and just making it season 6, they now needed to stretch the story arc out for another 8 episodes to ultimately end up where chase wanted to end up.

While all these past episodes have been good, there have been a LOT of story lines that weren't needed for character developement, I have the feeling they got money for more episodes and had to stretch things thin a bit.
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 11:55 PM


I'm not sure on the Tony seeing himself either...I think that was just bad editing. I think something as massive as him seeing himself would have had to have been elaborated on a bit more and THAT would have been the ending.
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[*] posted on 6-10-2007 at 11:55 PM


the last five minutes were tense. every person the camera focused on you thought was gonna get tony.

my thought was that the guy who went into the can was gonna try to blast tony when he came out, but that meadow would have sat there in the mean time and she woulda gotten it.

my wife thinks we're supposed to believe that life "just goes on for them." she might be right - the story is over, nothing happens, and life just goes on - i dunno.





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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 12:12 AM


i have no fuckin pay channels and im drinkin AND i didnt even read this thread...
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 12:15 AM


After a few months off, actors return in June to film eight final "bonus" episodes, due next January. Chase says he agreed to extend the series when he couldn't fit two important plots into the upcoming batch. But he's sticking with his original plan for how to end it, which he conceived more than two years ago.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2006-03-01-sopr...


that wasn't bad editing
Ireally think it was all tony's life flashing before his eyes...
he looked himeslf in the eye and it seemed he moved forward into the seat, there is no way chase would make a mistake like that
he is said to stand over the editors shoulder on every episode if he wrote or directed it himself

what we watched was the last 8 years of tony's life flash before his eyes up to the last 5 minutes of his life
and then silence...

Remember the conversation with Bobby at the lake? "I wonder if you hear the one that gets you" - the final episode answers that question. That is why they flashed back to it at the end of last weeks episode. He never heard the one that killed him."

I'm still pissed but I can deal with it thru that...
watching agin in an hor, and watching the last 7 minutes close...
to make sure he see's himself

I feel kind of sad now
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 12:17 AM


weve been watchin my oz dvds.......
nothin like sodomy and racism
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 12:18 AM


don't get me started on how crappy the oz ending was....
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 12:19 AM


oh fuck the end of season 6 was terrible
it got stupid half way season 4
but still it was a helluve lot better than most crap on tv at the time
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 12:20 AM


fuck my typing is slurring......
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 03:01 AM


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i have no fuckin pay channels and im drinkin AND i didnt even read this thread...


I'm smokin' and didn't read the tread. But the ending was lame and IMHO left open for later use.
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 08:04 AM


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he looked himeslf in the eye and it seemed he moved forward into the seat, there is no way chase would make a mistake like that


now i need to rewatch it. i don't even remember the scene previous to them being in the restaurant.





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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 08:23 AM
one theory i found online:


"You just got whacked. He killed the audience, not the show."




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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 08:24 AM


Heres a good synopsis by Alan Sepinwall a TV critic who has done a great job summarizing/analyzing the episodes over the years for the star ledger

http://blog.nj.com/ledgerentertainment/2007/06/dont_stop_bel...
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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 08:25 AM
another theory i found online:


"WOW!!!! AMAZING!!! OK, at first I was really angry. I mean really, really angry. I can't believe though that no-one has posted by now what happened. The only thing I saw that was right, was that in the last scene we are seeing through Tony's eyes. Remember when he was speaking with Bobby...basically saying that you don't see it happening? So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail. So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?). Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase's way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to "don't stop". Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow didn't get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family. Thank you David Chase for making it so obscure that I feel bad for hating you at first. Absolutely amazing!!!!"

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now, that did cross my mind, the idea that the people in the diner were from Tony's past; I just couldn't place them.

and what did AJ say at the end, "Remember the good times, that you you told me"?

man, now i'm all thrown off.





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[*] posted on 6-11-2007 at 08:41 AM


http://blog.nj.com/alltv/2007/06/sopranos_rewind_made_in_ame...




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