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What the fuck is Tuff Guy Hardcore?
I was reading about a show in b-more (on 9/21) that we are playing w/BillyClubSandwich on a website where members were commenting on.
A remark was posted, ?I?m not going because I?m not into Tuff Guy? by some kid?
So I ask this question, who decides what is Tuff Guy hardcore? What exactly defines this sub-genre of hardcore? Personally I think that reference is
retarded and my band is not ?Tuff Guy? whatever the fuck that is. I?m tired of young kids telling me what MY band should be musically classified
under.
Somebody inform my ignorant ass what this bullshit label means...
I don?t write songs about killing, beating, or hurting anybody in our music. Nor do I care about being tuff in the eyes of some young kids I don?t
personally know?
People are fucking sheep, when did the hardcore community become so blind and unwilling to listen to music for the sake of just liking a bands sound?
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The term "tuff guy" is kind of irritating I guess because my band has been labeled as tough guy shit a million times and we're not thugs. And it kind
of lumps us in with a lot of sub-par bands. But at the same time everything has to be given a name. The word hardcore doesn't identify anything
specific nowadays. So people use terms like "posi", "thrash", "tuff guy" etc to distinguish different styles, even though some posi sounding bands
don't have a positive message, some "thrash" bands aren't thrash at all, and some "tuff guy" bands don't beat up anyone.
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i dunno how to label the shit anymore
i'm tryin not to latley out of hating alot of, but liking a little of everythinf these days...if that makes any sense
i remember hearing faggy ultra PC punk assholes in philly pretty much passing the "tuff guy" judgement on anyone with extensive tattooing back in the
day.
but i am pretty sure what people clasify as tuff guy hardcore is stuff like Madball, Vietnom, Fury of 5, and more metalish sounding stuff.
then again what do I know right?
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Don't know and don't care. I have been in many a discussion about this with many people I don't even know at record stores or shows. The ignorant one
is the one who lumps bands into these things. Its always some dude around 20 or so who thinks they know whats up and thinks HORSE THE BAND is cool.
I had some kid tell me AF have no right to call themselves the godfathers of NY hardcore because SSD was. SSD are from Boston douchbag. His words were
"you know what I mean" Then he preceeded to tell me of a clevo show Roger and the Disasters played were they started raggin on Clevo and dissing the
kids. He was like "He's arrogant and AF are just opportunistic and not really hardcore." I said "Opportunistic?" "We all are and that is life" I see
nothing more hardcore than changing with the times and STILL being relevent. This was this past saturday when I grabbed ANOTHER VOICE in the used bin
at a record store.
SHUT UP AND GIVE ME MY CHANGE FOOL. BEFORE I BEATDOWN YOUR PUNK ASS. THANKS FOR THE $10.00 used CD AND WASH YOUR HANDS YOU FILTH,Y STINKY, SKINNY DIED
BLACK HAIR DOUCHEBAG.
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The difference is about 200lbs total band weight.
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I think anything less "punk" and more "metallic" than a band like the Cro-Mags, where the lyrical focus isn't primarily based around the toils of
mascara clad existance gets lumped into the "tough guy" genre.
Theres a great CD I have somewhere from this dude Erik who lives upstate NY somewhere, it's tough guy fishing core, sounds like Bulldoze with lyrics
about Rapala's and Bass trackers.
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I am guilty of using this term now and again but I mean some bands, such as Bulldoze have used this term to describe themselves. Usually it's more
metallic hardcore (though a band like Skarhead goes against this) with lots of breakdowns, etc, and lyrical content that revolves around the street,
crew, fighting, loyalty, etc,.
But yes, the tough guy term is one of the misused in the hardcore scene.
And yeah, whoever though Hard Response was Tough Guy is an idiot.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by hardtone
I was reading about a show in b-more (on 9/21) that we are playing w/BillyClubSandwich on a website where members were commenting on.
A remark was posted, ?I?m not going because I?m not into Tuff Guy? by some kid?
So I ask this question, who decides what is Tuff Guy hardcore? What exactly defines this sub-genre of hardcore? Personally I think that reference is
retarded and my band is not ?Tuff Guy? whatever the fuck that is. I?m tired of young kids telling me what MY band should be musically classified
under.
Somebody inform my ignorant ass what this bullshit label means...
I don?t write songs about killing, beating, or hurting anybody in our music. Nor do I care about being tuff in the eyes of some young kids I don?t
personally know?
People are fucking sheep, when did the hardcore community become so blind and unwilling to listen to music for the sake of just liking a bands sound?
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maybe it means you look "tuff"? i don't really know and it's only dumb little kids who got into hardcore yesterday and are experts in it in all
aspects. ignore them.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
The difference is about 200lbs total band weight. |
^^^^^^^ try 200 x's 4 guys.
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This basic form of metalcore has received the epithets "tough guy hardcore"--due to many bands' lyrical content, which often focuses on "the
scene" and/or violence
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Didn't you know that BCS was the devil????
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over here the whole "tough guy" thing just related to bands with sleeves playing mosh music and their equally homosexual friends moshing on the edge
of the pit.
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When I think of "Tuff Guy" bands like Bulldoze, Fury of V, Vietnom, E Town Concrete, early 25 Ta Life, Skarhead come to mind.
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I hear what everyone is saying, and maybe I take the remark personally. It just fuels me when clueless people try to express a relevant thought...
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