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STORY ABOUT BROTHERS HELPING A BROTHER

jsinn - 5-30-2008 at 09:54 AM

hey fellas,

my friend steve defstar told me about what happened and how all of you tied in to the message board literally saved a friend...

I can't begin to express how admirable this is and you should all be very proud of rallying to help a friend...
you are all to be commended...

now, that said...I think this is a great story...and I would like to tell it...
firstly, I have no intention of using his name at all...period...it's not necessary...
nor the reasons why this came to pass...

the story, in my opinion, is about a community of friends, from all across the country, who come to this board to share stories about music, shared interests, and just basically...life...
and how, when they knew a friend was in trouble, did not sit idly by and do nothing...
but took up the responsibility to save a person who was important...

thoughts?
I'm doing a label piece on Thorp...
this would be a great accompaniment to show how this board, in many ways, symbolizes the strength of hardcore...
and I'm not talking a bout music...
I'm talking about loyalty, brotherhood, family...
strength in numbers...

so...those who would like to help me do this, email me here:
jwalsh@wvec.com

like I said...confidentiality is key to your friend and the whys...
the story is in what you all accomplished here...

I look forward to hearing from you all...

Jason Walsh
AMP Magazine

Voodoobillyman - 5-30-2008 at 10:33 AM

Where are you at in Va Beach bro?

XHonusWagnerX - 5-30-2008 at 10:53 AM

what does everyone think?

gavin - 5-30-2008 at 10:56 AM

i vote no.
while i think the intentions are good, this aint anyones biz but ours
we should not discuss family biz outside of the family

upyerbum - 5-30-2008 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by MrBadVibes
we should not discuss family biz outside of the family


No offense, if you're a friend of Steve's I already know you're a good dude, but I think this is a little too sensitive, at the moment.

Furly - 5-30-2008 at 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by upyerbum
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Originally posted by MrBadVibes
we should not discuss family biz outside of the family


No offense, if you're a friend of Steve's I already know you're a good dude, but I think this is a little too sensitive, at the moment.


agreed.

After everything is cool again I think it should be up to Mike with no pressure.

I wouldn't want my story out there for the world.

CR83 - 5-30-2008 at 11:38 AM

I agree. I know J comes with great references and his intentions are nothing but positive. I just think it is better kept here in the Family. Sorry J. If there are others ways I can help you, I'd be happy to. I hope you understand Bud.

newbreedbrian - 5-30-2008 at 11:48 AM

i gotta agree. as much as this is a public forum, this is an in house thing. plus i'd never wanna cause mike any more grief y'know, especially since things are still pretty fresh and up in the air

thedog - 5-30-2008 at 12:00 PM

agreed.
this should be up to mike.

JawnDiablo - 5-30-2008 at 12:24 PM

I agree with what all the other regulars just said.
I do find the whole situation to be very touching the way everyone came together for our man Discipline. I just think right now it should stay hereamongst thepeeps he knows and stuff.

random - 5-30-2008 at 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by thedog
agreed.
this should be up to mike.

joemaconmovies - 5-30-2008 at 12:37 PM

my vote is with everyone else. it's mike's call. plus, even though you're steve's friend and it seems good, i'd really only trust this if it were written by one of us

jonnynewbreed - 5-30-2008 at 12:40 PM

I think it should be up to Mike as well. Sorry dude. I like AMP mag it's a good read.

random - 5-30-2008 at 12:55 PM

jsinn,

I hope you don't get the wrong impression by the responses. Really, this is just a sensitive issue and the decision lies with the one guy who's not around to give permission... and unfortunately, we still don't know how shit's gonna turn out for him. I think it's safe to say that we appreciate your intentions, but it shouldn't be up to us to make this decision.

About the other stuff you said, I just wanted to throw out some comments.

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now, that said...I think this is a great story...and I would like to tell it...
firstly, I have no intention of using his name at all...period...it's not necessary...
nor the reasons why this came to pass...


Gotta be honest, it sounds like a pretty boring story if you leave out the details (i.e. the reasons why this came to pass). It basically amounts to "tough guys (and girls) go emo on message board for days on end over some guy they don't know."

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Originally posted by jsinn
I can't begin to express how admirable this is and you should all be very proud of rallying to help a friend...
you are all to be commended...


Much as I appreciate the sentiment, nothing that was done should be commendable... it should be normal and what each and every one of us is expected to do. I always get annoyed when doing the shit that we should do anyway is somehow elevated to the level of doing something special.

In the end, I'm just happy BD had access to some info that let him know he found the right guy and could make the right calls. Otherwise, there probably wouldn't have been anything that could be done.

DAK - 5-30-2008 at 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by random
jsinn,

I hope you don't get the wrong impression by the responses. Really, this is just a sensitive issue and the decision lies with the one guy who's not around to give permission... and unfortunately, we still don't know how shit's gonna turn out for him. I think it's safe to say that we appreciate your intentions, but it shouldn't be up to us to make this decision.

About the other stuff you said, I just wanted to throw out some comments.

Quote:

now, that said...I think this is a great story...and I would like to tell it...
firstly, I have no intention of using his name at all...period...it's not necessary...
nor the reasons why this came to pass...


Gotta be honest, it sounds like a pretty boring story if you leave out the details (i.e. the reasons why this came to pass). It basically amounts to "tough guys (and girls) go emo on message board for days on end over some guy they don't know."

Quote:
Originally posted by jsinn
I can't begin to express how admirable this is and you should all be very proud of rallying to help a friend...
you are all to be commended...


Much as I appreciate the sentiment, nothing that was done should be commendable... it should be normal and what each and every one of us is expected to do. I always get annoyed when doing the shit that we should do anyway is somehow elevated to the level of doing something special.

In the end, I'm just happy BD had access to some info that let him know he found the right guy and could make the right calls. Otherwise, there probably wouldn't have been anything that could be done.


WORD!!

SS76 - 5-30-2008 at 05:14 PM

Nobody with scars on their wrists wants their story told.

joemaconmovies - 5-30-2008 at 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Shootingscars
Nobody with scars on their wrists wants their story told.


those types of stories have been told before.

Siczine.com - 5-30-2008 at 05:30 PM

I am in unison with everyone else, it should be up to the man the story is about.

Jason the Magnificent - 5-30-2008 at 07:56 PM

I'm not sure I even understand whats going on. Like a book story? Or an arctivle for a zine or something?

joemaconmovies - 5-30-2008 at 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I'm not sure I even understand whats going on. Like a book story? Or an arctivle for a zine or something?


a story for amp i think

DaveMoral - 5-30-2008 at 10:55 PM

Keep it in the family, I say. I Discipline is into letting the story out sometime when things are settled and cool and he's got himself collected, that's his call.

Besides, anonymous or not... anyone that checked out the Thorp boards because of the story would catch on quick. And I'm not about tooting my own horn... can't speak for anyone else. And what random said is right... this isn't commendable, it's like a sort of duty. I barely even know most of these cats on here and I've only ever met a couple of guys, and given the tight knit of this place I just sort of expect this kind of well wishing and support of myself and of them.

barc0debaby - 5-30-2008 at 11:02 PM

Disciplines story, disciplines decision. Given enough time though I do agree it would be a very uplifting story to tell, amongst todays fucked up news, stories like what took place here give a glimmer of hope.

joemaconmovies - 5-31-2008 at 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by barc0debaby
Disciplines story, disciplines decision. Given enough time though I do agree it would be a very uplifting story to tell, amongst todays fucked up news, stories like what took place here give a glimmer of hope.

Spoiler - 5-31-2008 at 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by DaveMoral
Keep it in the family, I say. I Discipline is into letting the story out sometime when things are settled and cool and he's got himself collected, that's his call.

Besides, anonymous or not... anyone that checked out the Thorp boards because of the story would catch on quick. And I'm not about tooting my own horn... can't speak for anyone else. And what random said is right... this isn't commendable, it's like a sort of duty. I barely even know most of these cats on here and I've only ever met a couple of guys, and given the tight knit of this place I just sort of expect this kind of well wishing and support of myself and of them.
after thinking a lot about this,I was getting ready to write almost the exact same thing as Dave.
Also,I like the Thorp board just the way it is...just a small group of us now,who get along pretty damn good...but after the board gets mentioned in AMP....we may get a ton of new "Junior Members" coming in and fucking up this thing of ours.
This could be good for THORP RECORDS...but not so much for our board.But thats just my opinion,the other guys may want some new blood here....but I kinda doubt it.

joemaconmovies - 5-31-2008 at 09:53 AM

Spoiler, you make a very very good point. If Discipline's name remains a secret it also means all us regulars will get bugged about it too. Not that I mind updating friends about his well being but not strangers who read about it in a magazine.

jonnynewbreed - 6-1-2008 at 09:31 AM

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This could be good for THORP RECORDS...


I want nothing but the best to happen for THORP RECORDS for the record. Andy and Duane and everyone have been awesome to me over the years and I have nothing but great things to say about our dealings together.

Discipline - 6-6-2008 at 01:42 PM

For the record, I'd rather you didn't write the story. I don't want to risk a bunch of fucking retards coming on here and disturbing the peace. This is my home away from home and I like it that way. My two cents for what it's worth.

Dave - 6-6-2008 at 02:21 PM

The man has spoken, we keep it in the family.

They way it should be..

joemaconmovies - 6-6-2008 at 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
The man has spoken, we keep it in the family.

They way it should be..

newbreedbrian - 6-6-2008 at 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by joemaconmovies
Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
The man has spoken, we keep it in the family.

They way it should be..

DAK - 6-6-2008 at 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by newbreedbrian
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Originally posted by joemaconmovies
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Originally posted by Dave
The man has spoken, we keep it in the family.

They way it should be..

joemaconmovies - 6-6-2008 at 03:26 PM

we almost sound like the fucking mob.

random - 6-6-2008 at 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by joemaconmovies
we almost sound like the fucking mob.


you mean we're not? i mean, after the "weapons" thread...

joemaconmovies - 6-6-2008 at 04:20 PM

i forgot about that part. can i be the one who owns a strip club?

Spoiler - 6-6-2008 at 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by jonnynewbreed
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This could be good for THORP RECORDS...


I want nothing but the best to happen for THORP RECORDS for the record. Andy and Duane and everyone have been awesome to me over the years and I have nothing but great things to say about our dealings together.
agreed....I've never read or heard anything bad about this record label....I wish the best of luck always.

JawnDiablo - 6-6-2008 at 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by random
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Originally posted by joemaconmovies
we almost sound like the fucking mob.


you mean we're not? i mean, after the "weapons" thread...


we are the mob
capiche?

random - 6-6-2008 at 09:19 PM

"so, do you understand?"

"um... everything but capiche."


DaveMoral - 6-7-2008 at 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Discipline
For the record, I'd rather you didn't write the story. I don't want to risk a bunch of fucking retards coming on here and disturbing the peace. This is my home away from home and I like it that way. My two cents for what it's worth.


Nice to see you drop in brother. Keep your chin up!