TERROR: Lowest of The Low vs. One With The Underdogs

BDx13 - 4-10-2005 at 07:05 PM

It took me a while to get into Lowest of the Low, mostly because it was different than what I expected, but once I did, I really did. However, I just can NOT get on board with One with the Underdogs.

What about you?

SAAAAARS - 4-10-2005 at 08:28 PM

i got into lowest of the low right away. one with the underdogs i gave a listen, but when something doesn't get me right away, i usually stop trying. i haven't really given it much play, but i don't really dig it.

tireironsaint - 4-10-2005 at 08:33 PM

Bah, I haven't heard a thing from Terror that interested me in the slightest, so I can't help you out with this one.

geneterror - 4-10-2005 at 09:22 PM

Lowest of the Low destroys but there's no way they could keep that kind of speed/intensity through a full length without it sounding to samey and getting boring. I prefer Lowest.. but I respect what they pulled outta the bag with the full length.
Maybe Frank will have more input into the song writing process next time around... that's something to get excited about!

Six66Mike - 4-10-2005 at 09:52 PM

I can't get into anything this fuckin band does. I don't get it. Even live I get bored as fuck when they play.

TTF - 4-10-2005 at 10:08 PM

Unless the name Terror has the word Sheer in front of it I'm probably not on board. What do these retards sound like? Why is it that every band I've heard recently of the new HC/Metal bands sound completely interchangeable. I remember when you could dig listening to Husker Du and then throw on Negative Approach and then the Adolescents and even my dad wouldn't confuse those 3 bands. Why do so many fucking bands feel the need to put the words blood or die in their name?

BDx13 - 4-10-2005 at 10:29 PM

i guess a lot of people were down on terror because they got so big so fast (?). i don't know about all that shit. all i know is that 'lowest' is hyper, and when i saw them at cb's last year, their show was off the hook. those guys put on an outstanding live show. moron was there - what did you think? now, is what they're doing revolutionary. no. but it is well done, and the live show sold me. they are among one of my favorite 'current' bands.

TTF - 4-10-2005 at 10:47 PM

What do they sound like Big D? Driving home from Philly on Saturday I had the most fucked up playlist- The Bad Vibes, King Crimson, Poison Idea, Esoteric, Season to Risk, some crazy classical. Listening to PI and Bad Vibes gave me a hardcore kick in the ass. Recommendations?

tireironsaint - 4-10-2005 at 10:47 PM

Well, I do realize that they blew up pretty quickly, but I wouldn't care if they were doing something interesting. No offense Duane, I just think that most people who like them just jumped on board because everybody else did. I even went over to the Bridge 9 website (shudder) to listen to an mp3 just to make sure I was thinking of the right band. It was every bit as uninteresting as what I remembered, but keep in mind that I think that 99% of all modern HC is just as boring. Bands like Terror just hold absolutely NO interest for me and it annoys me to see yet another band that show no trace of real roots. I would much rather hear twenty 7th generation Minor Threat or Negative Approach rip off bands than even one more band playing watered down Slayer riffs and calling it Hard Core.

BDx13 - 4-10-2005 at 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by TTF
What do they sound like Big D? Driving home from Philly on Saturday I had the most fucked up playlist- The Bad Vibes, King Crimson, Poison Idea, Esoteric, Season to Risk, some crazy classical. Listening to PI and Bad Vibes gave me a hardcore kick in the ass. Recommendations?

I'll set you up with an example.
Quite unfortunately, i have NO PI in digital format, and I can't say I've ever even heard Season To Risk.

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Originally posted by tireironsaint
Well, I do realize that they blew up pretty quickly, but I wouldn't care if they were doing something interesting. No offense Duane, I just think that most people who like them just jumped on board because everybody else did. I even went over to the Bridge 9 website (shudder) to listen to an mp3 just to make sure I was thinking of the right band. It was every bit as uninteresting as what I remembered, but keep in mind that I think that 99% of all modern HC is just as boring. Bands like Terror just hold absolutely NO interest for me and it annoys me to see yet another band that show no trace of real roots. I would much rather hear twenty 7th generation Minor Threat or Negative Approach rip off bands than even one more band playing watered down Slayer riffs and calling it Hard Core.

HAHA, no, i know, man, you're absolutely right. Like I said, what they're doing isn't revolutionary, and like you, I'm not into a lot of bands these days, but Terror is one of the few current bands that I'm actually interested in seeing live. Them and Hope Conspiracy. God knows I'm so out of touch, I wouldn't know what bandwagon to get on. Although, it is my impression that Donnybrook is currently "the band to like". I haven't heard them, so I can't really comment, but BOY-O-BOY were there some Donnybrook shirts and sweatshirts at the Superbowl.

ENDERA.x - 4-10-2005 at 11:12 PM

holy shit man

while terror aint great, I do like them, live more than on cd. whatever they represent what they feel like whats so bad... at least its not atreyu or the fate of comeback kid? haha

umm, the lyrics in some of the songs are good, like Less Than Zero for example (actually those lyrics remind of hatebreed)

DNBK are coming up in the world...
they are cool dudes and have a good thing going, and I like their stuff, but hardcore kids are pathetic. Sorry. (haha what? - your thinking)

Oh can I just get some comments on people's thoughts on Boston Beatdown?

SAAAAARS - 4-10-2005 at 11:31 PM

1. i'm seeing terror a couple times in a few weeks and i'm pretty excited. i'm glad you are saying good things.
2. the hope conspiracy are so fun live!
3. i wasn't into donnybrook for a while. i saw them over summer and they were ok, i wasn't really into it, but i wasn't really paying attention. then i saw them back in february and they were a lot fun. so i'm into it. i'm seeing them again on sunday and hope it's just as fun.

that was a lot of typing

tireironsaint - 4-10-2005 at 11:33 PM

I hope you weren't trying to sway my opinion by comparing them to Hatebreed, Endera, because I probably despise Hatebreed more than just about any other big name band.

I've had a few people recommend Donnybrook to me, but I still haven't checked them out. It's probably the gay-ass name that's kept me from checking them out so far, but I've heard good things.

Oh, and I completely agree that hardcore kids are pathetic. People that dig Hard Core, on the other hand, can be pretty cool.

ENDERA.x - 4-10-2005 at 11:45 PM

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People that dig Hard Core, on the other hand, can be pretty cool.

Very well said there.

And no I didn't mean anythign by comparing them to hatebreed's lyrics.. I just find the subject matter similar in ways.

BDx13 - 4-11-2005 at 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by SAAAAARS
1. i'm seeing terror a couple times in a few weeks and i'm pretty excited. i'm glad you are saying good things.
2. the hope conspiracy are so fun live!
3. i wasn't into donnybrook for a while. i saw them over summer and they were ok, i wasn't really into it, but i wasn't really paying attention. then i saw them back in february and they were a lot fun. so i'm into it. i'm seeing them again on sunday and hope it's just as fun.

that was a lot of typing

I can't say enought about the performance Terror put on at CB's last year and a few months later at Knitting Factory here in NYC. Anxious to hear what others, including Saaars, have thought of their live performance.

I've seen the Hope Conspiracy twice in NYC. The first time they were opening for someone at Irving, and the crowd was embarrassing. The second was at CB's and again, the crowd was fucking pathetic. I got a dvd of the CB's show. Good stuff, despite the horribly useless slobs in the audience.

Gotta check out Donnybrook.

Todd - check your U2U.

ENDERA.x - 4-11-2005 at 12:32 AM

haha Duane "horribly useless slobs" I love it

BDx13 - 4-11-2005 at 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by ENDERA.x
haha Duane "horribly useless slobs" I love it

the response of the crowd at both shows was genuinely embarrassing. THC brings so much energy to the stage, and these fuckers just stood there. Even I danced, essentially by myself, and I hung up my boots years ago.

gavin - 4-11-2005 at 01:25 AM

i listened to both terror cds cuz some kid told me my old ass would like them.
i didnt.

Discipline - 4-11-2005 at 09:03 AM

I got into Terror because I saw playing with Madball and Hatebreed (plus some death metal bands) on the Rise Of Brutality Tour. I wanted to check them out cause Scott Vogel was singing and I liked Despair and Buried Alive. I thought they were fuckin amazing live. Lowest Of The Low was definately superior though.

clevohardcore - 4-11-2005 at 11:40 AM

Both are equal however I think Oen with is more advanced musically. Better breakdowns drum stuff sounds better.

LilOz - 4-11-2005 at 12:00 PM

lowest I really dig.

underdogs was a huge let down and such a bore.

CR83 - 4-11-2005 at 05:05 PM

Terror are awesome live. I met Scott in Dallas. What a real nice guy. The song Overcome is just so motivating for me. It's great to run or workout to. I hope to always support Terror. I didg both disks. I also like First Blood.

moron - 4-11-2005 at 06:27 PM

Ive seen Terror a bunch of times, and they've always been exciting. The show at CBs Duane is raving about was incredible. They were heavy as hell even with one guitarist and bodies were flying everywhere.

Like most, I definately like Lowest of the Low better than One With the Underdogs.

JUICE MAYNE MSHC - 4-11-2005 at 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by tireironsaint
Well, I do realize that they blew up pretty quickly, but I wouldn't care if they were doing something interesting. No offense Duane, I just think that most people who like them just jumped on board because everybody else did. I even went over to the Bridge 9 website (shudder) to listen to an mp3 just to make sure I was thinking of the right band. It was every bit as uninteresting as what I remembered, but keep in mind that I think that 99% of all modern HC is just as boring. Bands like Terror just hold absolutely NO interest for me and it annoys me to see yet another band that show no trace of real roots. I would much rather hear twenty 7th generation Minor Threat or Negative Approach rip off bands than even one more band playing watered down Slayer riffs and calling it Hard Core.

Dude...these guys's roots go WAY back. Having known 4/5 of the band long before they were doing Terror...I can say without a doubt that these guys come from the most sincere background that you could ask for.

tireironsaint - 4-11-2005 at 11:00 PM

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I'm not trying to make a personal judgement on the guys in the band, it's just that their brand of music shows no trace of where Hard Core comes from to me. I hear metal riffs and not much more when I hear them and it just doesn't interest me, that's my whole point. I've never met those guys and probably never will, so it would be pointless of me to sit here and try to claim that I know what is in their hearts and heads, again, this is all just my opinion of their music.

MikeInhuman - 4-12-2005 at 02:36 PM

Am I the only person who really does not like Terror at all?
To me, they are just another Hatebreed clone who happens to also sound like Madball ( a little bit).

m.

tireironsaint - 4-12-2005 at 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by MikeInhuman
Am I the only person who really does not like Terror at all?
To me, they are just another Hatebreed clone who happens to also sound like Madball ( a little bit).

m.

I take it you didn't read any of the other posts before yours?

viva hate - 4-12-2005 at 07:20 PM

i like terror, but they get way too much credit.

ENDERA.x - 4-12-2005 at 10:14 PM

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????????????? haha ok.

SAAAAARS - 4-12-2005 at 11:07 PM

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i don't really think terror sounds like either of those. at all.

Mikey216 - 4-12-2005 at 11:19 PM

LOWEST OF THE LOW cus of the FURNACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BDx13 - 4-12-2005 at 11:45 PM

nah, mikeinhuman, there are definitely plenty of people that don't like terror (and clearly, the saint is among them). it's fine if people don't like their music; i just think it's odd that some don't like them cause they're popular. to me, if they're popular and good, that's fine, cause god knows there are more than enough popular bands in this scene that fucking suck!

tireironsaint - 4-13-2005 at 04:34 AM

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Originally posted by Big Duane
nah, mikeinhuman, there are definitely plenty of people that don't like terror (and clearly, the saint is among them). it's fine if people don't like their music; i just think it's odd that some don't like them cause they're popular. to me, if they're popular and good, that's fine, cause god knows there are more than enough popular bands in this scene that fucking suck!

I can definitely agree with you here, Duane. I'm all for more kids actually getting into the good bands and I have no problem when lots of people actually pick up on a good band, I just have a problem when the popularity is based on fashion or the band's rep based on their ultra rare release pressed on pink and blue plaid vinyl limited to three copies or some equally assinine bullshit. And of course on top of that, I just happen to have a very discerning palate when it comes to Hard Core and Punk, so most of the bands out there today fall into the reject pile for me.

BDx13 - 4-13-2005 at 08:17 AM

exactly. my problem is that i'm so out of touch with the scene, that every now and again i wind up liking a band that it happens to be cool to like. obviously, that unwittingly puts me in some BAD company!

Discipline - 4-13-2005 at 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Big Duane
exactly. my problem is that i'm so out of touch with the scene, that every now and again i wind up liking a band that it happens to be cool to like. obviously, that unwittingly puts me in some BAD company!

ditto

tireironsaint - 4-13-2005 at 03:12 PM

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Wait, the kids are all listening to Bad Company now? Damn, I'm more outta touch than I thought!

Six66Mike - 4-20-2005 at 01:04 AM

More people need to listen to Inhuman. One of my favourite bands outta NY for sure.

ENDERA.x - 4-20-2005 at 01:06 AM

They are alright