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joey - 6-19-2010 at 12:44 PM

will be playing in Europe (Persistance tour) this summer with SOIA. I just saw the flyer, no idea if its true or not. I figured with all the bfb fans around here, I should give you guys a heads up.

Edit: December 11

JawnDiablo - 6-19-2010 at 01:50 PM

post that flyer up on here whydontchya?

joey - 6-19-2010 at 01:59 PM

don't know how, so here you go

http://www.theb9.com/view-topic/738624

random - 6-19-2010 at 02:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by joey
don't know how, so here you go

http://www.theb9.com/view-topic/738624





B9 thread also said - not surprisingly - that Rob isn't involved.

Vanilla Gorilla - 6-19-2010 at 02:18 PM

If Rob isn't involved its not really blood for blood, and who knows if that is even legit.

I wonder what Mark has to say about this.

JawnDiablo - 6-19-2010 at 02:21 PM

No Rob.
No band.

Mark Lind - 6-19-2010 at 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla
I wonder what Mark has to say about this.


It ain't my business. So beyond clarifying that I'm not that guy that is trying to steal my brother's spot I have no opinion.

Mickey - 6-19-2010 at 02:36 PM

It's legit. They got Billy from biohazard filling in. Will it be the same as it was with Rob? Nope, but people still want to hear the songs live. John Joseph did it with cro mags, Paul is doing it with sheer terror, and James just did it with fury of 5. More power to em. Keep an eye out for a US show too.

REV.PAULIE - 6-19-2010 at 02:39 PM

Please keep me out of this,Mickey.

Vanilla Gorilla - 6-19-2010 at 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Mark Lind
Quote:
Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla
I wonder what Mark has to say about this.


It ain't my business. So beyond clarifying that I'm not that guy that is trying to steal my brother's spot I have no opinion.


I wasn't trying to imply that you are, but generally you are the only reliable source in regards to this kind of stuff.

MattyA - 6-19-2010 at 03:24 PM

If Rob's not in it then it's not Blood For Blood. It would be cool seeing those songs played again live, but it's not the same without him.

XnMeX - 6-19-2010 at 03:27 PM

This is sad...

barc0debaby - 6-19-2010 at 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Mickey
It's legit. They got Billy from biohazard filling in. Will it be the same as it was with Rob? Nope, but people still want to hear the songs live. John Joseph did it with cro mags, Paul is doing it with sheer terror, and James just did it with fury of 5. More power to em. Keep an eye out for a US show too.


I don't think you can draw a comparison with those three. Paul and James are what made their bands. Without those two you don't have shit. The Cro Mags is more debatable, but I would rather see a JJ fronted Cro Mags show then Harley any day.


XHonusWagnerX - 6-19-2010 at 04:59 PM

I like Billy, I would like to see this 'band' play, but its not BFB to me.

There are some people in bands that can be replaced and others that cant.


John Joseph can play Cro-Mags songs cause he was the dominate personality/vocalist.
Choke could do the same thing with Slapshot, Negative FX, Stars & Stripes or Last Rights if he wanted.
Kevin Seconds could do it.
Jimmy Gestap has done it many times!
Mike Judge could do it.

I think sometimes you need at least 2 guys....
Roger & Stigma could do it.
Eddie & Alex VanHalen could do it.


All that being said, I think that Rob could reform BFB alone if he wanted to, but it would work best with him & Buddha.
BFB without Rob is not BFB.

XnMeX - 6-19-2010 at 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
I would like to see this 'band' play, but its not BFB to me.

BFB without Rob is not BFB.


Yup. It is especially not Blood for Blood since as far as I know Rob wrote about 98% of everything that makes up Blood for Blood minus drums.

Mark Lind - 6-19-2010 at 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla
Quote:
Originally posted by Mark Lind
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Originally posted by Vanilla Gorilla
I wonder what Mark has to say about this.


It ain't my business. So beyond clarifying that I'm not that guy that is trying to steal my brother's spot I have no opinion.


I wasn't trying to imply that you are, but generally you are the only reliable source in regards to this kind of stuff.


Sorry. That wasn't directed at you. Someone on the B9 made a comment of that sort.

DaveMoral - 6-19-2010 at 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
I like Billy, I would like to see this 'band' play, but its not BFB to me.

There are some people in bands that can be replaced and others that cant.


John Joseph can play Cro-Mags songs cause he was the dominate personality/vocalist.
Choke could do the same thing with Slapshot, Negative FX, Stars & Stripes or Last Rights if he wanted.
Kevin Seconds could do it.
Jimmy Gestap has done it many times!
Mike Judge could do it.

I think sometimes you need at least 2 guys....
Roger & Stigma could do it.
Eddie & Alex VanHalen could do it.


All that being said, I think that Rob could reform BFB alone if he wanted to, but it would work best with him & Buddha.
BFB without Rob is not BFB.


Dude, not only can Roger and Stigma do AF with just them and so other dudes to fill it out... they have. Basically for every album and tour.

lifeisabitch - 6-19-2010 at 08:38 PM

blood for blood cover bands are cool with me, just don't call yourself blood for blood... they can be anything else just not BFB...

Jason the Magnificent - 6-19-2010 at 09:29 PM

Band will sound hard w/ Billy.

Discipline - 6-19-2010 at 11:59 PM

Rob is/was the heart and soul of B4B. Without him, it's just a shitty cover band.

morgan - 6-20-2010 at 02:47 AM

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Originally posted by Discipline
Rob is/was the heart and soul of B4B. Without him, it's just a shitty cover band.


never had the chance to see bfb but this pretty much sums it up for me. Pretty much like when Ramallah was touring without Rob.

Voodoobillyman - 6-20-2010 at 07:25 AM

This is interesting. I would like to see these guys with Billy from Biohazard, he was always the best part of that band.

Spoiler - 6-20-2010 at 07:32 AM

http://hardtimes.ca/bloodforblood_reunion2010


Blood For Blood (MA) Announce European Reunion Tour With Sick Of It All; Biohazard Guitarist To Perform With Band



Boston's Blood For Blood have issued the following statement:

"First off, we would like to thank all our fans for hanging in there over the last six long years. As of December 2010, Blood for Blood will embark on our first tour since 2004. Blood for Blood has agreed to join the Persistence Tour in Europe sharing a stage with long time friends Sick Of It All as well as other acts soon to be announced.

The decision to play again was not an easy one to make. Over the last few years we have tried time and time again to contact [guitarist & vocalist] Rob [Lind aka "White Trash Rob"] about a possible Blood for Blood reunion, but he has ignored every single attempt we have made. Therefore, we were left with no other choice but to find someone else to fill in for his BFB responsibilities. Now, let’s make this perfectly clear: We have no ill will towards Rob whatsoever. We wish him well and Blood for Blood will always be open to him.

That being said, we were left with the conundrum of finding a fill-in for Rob. After some careful thought we believe we found a perfect fill-in. We are pleased to announce that Billy Graziadei of Biohazard will be joining Blood for Blood on stage for Persistence Tour 2010.

Again thanks for all the countless emails and support letters from all our fans over the years. We are looking forward to seeing all your ugly faces again.

BLOOD FOR BLOOD"

The band's 2010 touring lineup is as follows:

Vocals - Buddha
Guitar / Vocals - Billy Graziadei (Biohazard)
Bass- Ian McFarland
Drums - Neal Dike

XHonusWagnerX - 6-20-2010 at 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by DaveMoral

Dude, not only can Roger and Stigma do AF with just them and so other dudes to fill it out... they have. Basically for every album and tour.



I just ment that in my opinion Vinny & Roger COULD tour as AF with just the two of them.

SS76 - 6-20-2010 at 02:21 PM

I'm glad I might get a chance to finally see BFB! With or without Rob, it'll be awesome to hear some of my favorites live.

JawnDiablo - 6-20-2010 at 02:25 PM

well if they came thru Philly I would go for sure....

panzerkreuzer - 6-20-2010 at 03:09 PM

i´ll go to that show, it´s just around the corner for me.

Monkey_Julius_BoWaffle - 6-20-2010 at 05:43 PM

Without Rob, I'm not interested, but that's just me. His vocals were always my favorite in the band and I think most all of the material was written by him. Billy's cool IMO, but NOT as Rob's replacement in B4B.

Discipline - 6-20-2010 at 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Monkey_Julius_BoWaffle
Without Rob, I'm not interested, but that's just me. His vocals were always my favorite in the band and I think most all of the material was written by him. Billy's cool IMO, but NOT as Rob's replacement in B4B.

CR83 - 6-20-2010 at 10:25 PM

I really like all parties involved. In fact, I probably listen to one of them every day. I would absolutely go see this band. It's all about the music. Will it be the same? Nah, but the music will be great. I wish them well

SS76 - 6-20-2010 at 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by CR83
I really like all parties involved. In fact, I probably listen to one of them every day. I would absolutely go see this band. It's all about the music. Will it be the same? Nah, but the music will be great. I wish them well

mattybar - 6-21-2010 at 07:03 AM

i'm one of the few people who isn't a big fan of Rob's vocals so i'm actually kinda curious to see this.

Pity it's on the Persistence tour though as those are shows are simply never any fun at all unless you are about 15 and have come to see Walls of Jericho drag that dead horse across Europe one more time.



Jason the Magnificent - 6-21-2010 at 07:07 AM

Since all the best B4B material IMO was when Rob sounded exactly like Billy and wasn't doing the schtick...I'd actually love to see this. It's be like B4B w/o the theatrics and redundant banter. I know it'll never come here though.

XnMeX - 6-21-2010 at 02:15 PM

I wonder what Rob thinks of it all since it is his band and all...

Jason the Magnificent - 6-21-2010 at 07:57 PM

He was the only member?

Six66Mike - 6-21-2010 at 07:59 PM

Not the same that's for sure but I'd still go without a doubt.

XHonusWagnerX - 6-21-2010 at 09:46 PM

does that mean Buddha is the only original member?

Six66Mike - 6-22-2010 at 12:17 AM

I was about to say Ian as well but they had a chick on the early stuff before he joined. He's been in it long enough for me to be a true core member of BFB though.

XnMeX - 6-22-2010 at 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
He was the only member?


Him and Buddha as far as originals and Rob wrote most of Buddhas lyrics. So yes, he is the band as far as creativity / creation goes.

Jason the Magnificent - 6-22-2010 at 12:57 PM

I guess I just don't care enough about it to take some hardline stance of it being "his" band.

XHonusWagnerX - 6-22-2010 at 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I guess I just don't care enough about it to take some hardline stance of it being "his" band.


its kind of like if 3 guys from FEAR toured without Lee Ving. or if 3 guys toured as Murphy's Law without Jimmy G.

XnMeX - 6-22-2010 at 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I guess I just don't care enough about it to take some hardline stance of it being "his" band.


I don't think of it as a hardline stance, it's just the facts really.

Jason the Magnificent - 6-22-2010 at 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by XHonusWagnerX
Quote:
Originally posted by Jason the Magnificent
I guess I just don't care enough about it to take some hardline stance of it being "his" band.


its kind of like if 3 guys from FEAR toured without Lee Ving. or if 3 guys toured as Murphy's Law without Jimmy G.


Honus...those are two of the most silliest comparisons I've ever heard Lee Ving and Jimmy Gestapo to WT Rob and comparing that to this.

I get that Rob wrote the music...but seriously...

Did John Joseph write the music for Cro Mags? How come no one is getting up in arms about that stuff. If Buddha was going to bullshit people and call it "B4B jam" would that make everyone feel better about this?

When I saw them around Spit My Last Breath there was a band playing on stage...not Rob with a mic, accordion and drum strapped to his back. People are going to see a band play now...they're not promoting some new music...they're playing out.

Rob doesn't want to play out...that's fine...he's past it and in a different place...there's not a damn thing wrong with that.

I think people are just going way overboard and totally shitting on Buddhas contribution to the band by dismissing it as solely Rob's band.

Bottom line is there's a band with an original member and long standing member playing some shows with a KICK ASS fill in. Either go and enjoy the songs Rob created or don't.

No ones ever went to see a reunion show of a band where the principle songwriter has left? No ones ever listened to any rock bands who don't write thier own music? How many of you went to see ANY Misfits shows post Danzig?

At this point I'm going to dip out of this subject...there's some totally irrational fanboyism going on making grey area seem black and white...it's just some shows...I bet Rob cares less about this reunion than a lot of the people getting bent over it. I'd much rather see Buddha doing his own thing...but what are you going to do. Dudes want a check.