Hammer and the Nails maxi ep out now....

hammerxnails - 10-3-2010 at 09:17 PM

http://rocknrolldisgracerecords.bigcartel.com/product/hammer...

Plus new release from Tommy and the Terrors, Lovely Lads and more....

http://rocknrolldisgracerecords.bigcartel.com/

DAK - 10-3-2010 at 10:04 PM

:money:

Vanilla Gorilla - 10-4-2010 at 08:42 AM

I'd order but i've been waiting on some stuff that i ordered for about 7+ months

hammerxnails - 10-4-2010 at 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by DAK
:money:

Yes, these cost money. Now get back to tweeting Ben Weasel about his shitty band.

Quote:

I'd order but i've been waiting on some stuff that i ordered for about 7+ months

Send me a PM and I will look into this for you.

hammerxnails - 10-4-2010 at 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by DAK
STICK THE EP UP YOUR ASS!

I WOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER TRYING TO IF YOU WILL TWEET-TRODUCE ME TO BEN WEASEL BRO! THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY SWEET AND THEN I COULD MAYBE FINALLY GET HIM TO SIGN MY RIVERDALES JACKET. PUNK RAWK!

For the other guy, I got this...

"If anybody has had any issues with not receiving a package please contact me / the label and we will take care of whatever the situation is.
Thanks
RRD
rnrdisgrace@gmail.com"

hammerxnails - 10-4-2010 at 11:24 AM

DAK DELETED HIS ANGRY POST. ARGGGHHH, SO ANGRY.

DAK - 10-4-2010 at 11:37 AM

how old are you?

hammerxnails - 10-4-2010 at 12:00 PM

I am 54.

Johnny_Whistle - 10-4-2010 at 12:21 PM

$10 does seem like a bit much to spend on a 5-song EP. Just sayin'.

hammerxnails - 10-4-2010 at 12:56 PM

Thanks for the advice.

random - 10-4-2010 at 01:27 PM

Coming onto a board like this and acting like a douche to a longtime member isn't going to win you any fans or bring in any record sales.

That said, I've meant to check out Hammer and the Nails for a while, since I dig a lot of the Boston music and always assumed you guys have some connection to Tommy and the Terrors... actually, I originally assumed it was a joke side project when I heard the name a few years ago. I just listened to the stuff on the Myspace page, and I can pass. It's not bad, and I would check out a show if they were in the area, but the music just isn't really doing much for me.

ChadBeantown - 10-4-2010 at 01:47 PM

I have seen these guys a few times and like what they are doing!!

hammerxnails - 10-4-2010 at 01:51 PM

Had I known he was a longtime member I would have been more respectful of his e-scene credibility, as well as his twitter page history. Heartfelt apologies to all involved and indirectly to Ben Weasel who is also a longtime member of the real life scene. I also would like to take this time to apologize to the Boston music scene as a whole as this transgression against a valued member of the internet punk scene has probably tarnished our reputation as a brotherhood spreading a message of unity both nationally and internationally. I strongly urge you not to judge the actions of one 54 year old man as representative of the rest of the Boston Punk scene.

ShawnRefuse - 10-4-2010 at 02:51 PM

LOL are we on the lemmingtrail right now?

H&N are a good band. My question I guess would be, with 5 songs, why not a 7" for 5 bucks? I am sure you don't have 10 min epic solos.

As far as scene points, and all that crap, it's dead anyway and you are not on a board that cares about "cred". Also, most of the people who post here are 30+ so 54 isn't all that old.

Are you really 54? Damn you look good for your age.

I still want the H&N tape for $5.

Welcome to the board, and congrats on getting these guys riled up, unlike most boards, people here are 90% of the time welcoming and there is no drama.

Thanks for the read.

DAK - 10-4-2010 at 02:55 PM

I'm a complete scenester.

hammerxnails - 10-4-2010 at 03:40 PM

Its a 5 song 12 inch maxi EP because all the solos pushed it past the 7 inch length. It's not some Screeching Weasel 7 inch or whatever you people expect to spend 5 dollars on. This goes to 12.

ShawnRefuse - 10-4-2010 at 03:50 PM

I am getting a new (old) record player for my b-day. This may go into a new era of vinyl for me, and I do want the new T&tT one too.

May be buying on Friday. But then again, I will probably forget like always.

DAK - 10-4-2010 at 03:57 PM

Your tough guy act is boring go away.

Johnny_Whistle - 10-4-2010 at 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by hammerxnails
Its a 5 song 12 inch maxi EP because all the solos pushed it past the 7 inch length. It's not some Screeching Weasel 7 inch or whatever you people expect to spend 5 dollars on. This goes to 12.

Jesus, stop playing the victim. How did Ben Weasel hurt you, exactly?

hammerxnails - 10-4-2010 at 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by DAK
Your tough guy act is boring go away.

Tough guy act? Are you kidding? I realize you are an e-scene veteran and all but remember that you were the one telling me to go stick records in my ass, which I refuse to do. I think you are the acting "tough guy" here, tough guy.

Oh, and to the Whistleman, I didn't play the victim until this post above. Me and "The Wease" (that what his close personal friends call him) go way back. I'm just messin.

DAK - 10-4-2010 at 04:55 PM

:money:

Johnny_Whistle - 10-4-2010 at 05:20 PM

Ok well, I'm just saying $10 is a lot to pay for five songs. For all I know, it's the greatest punk rock record ever (after Screeching Weasel).

DAK - 10-4-2010 at 05:25 PM

Sean - 10-4-2010 at 06:00 PM

I definitely don't feel like $10 is fleecing anyone, but maybe I'm out of touch.
Regardless what anyone thinks, no money being made label-wise, you can be sure of that.

P.S: HATN are better than 90% of "oi!" bands on this planet, by the way.

random - 10-4-2010 at 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Sean

P.S: HATN are better than 90% of "oi!" bands on this planet, by the way.

Yeah, but as I've said before on here, 95% of oi bands are terrible. I love the last 5% or less. But, you know... 90% isn't so great.

ShawnRefuse - 10-4-2010 at 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Sean
I definitely don't feel like $10 is fleecing anyone, but maybe I'm out of touch.
Regardless what anyone thinks, no money being made label-wise, you can be sure of that.

P.S: HATN are better than 90% of "oi!" bands on this planet, by the way.

I know that vinyl is crazy expensive to produce (which is why no one will put ours out) and especially a 12". I know that there is no money being made by label, or even the band. I think it's because we live in a Dollar-a-song world today. Sucks, but it's true. I will probably buy one when I get a record player again.

Johnny_Whistle - 10-5-2010 at 08:27 AM

I'm not accusing anyone of fleecing anyone else. But as a musician, the novelty of having a vinyl release takes a back seat to getting my music out there, period. And when you can get a full length cd produced on a budget that lets you sell it for $10 (and you can put out a very nice looking cd for relatively little dough), I don't see why you'd want to go to the expense of putting out a 12", other than novelty, and who can afford novelty these days? Don't get me wrong, I love vinyl, and I'm glad that companies are starting to release it again. But most people have cd players in their cars and mp3 players everywhere else. Wouldn't you want folks to just have your music first and foremost?

Sorry if I'm raining on your parade. Good luck with it and all, really.

hammerxnails - 10-5-2010 at 11:03 AM

I don't care at all really. The label is the one flushing the money down the toilet putting out records. Pretty sure they won't have any problem recouping the cost of doing vinyl though. You are fooling yourself if you think you can move CDs quicker than vinyl these days. CDs are a complete waste of money since people will just download it off the internet. With vinyl people can buy a hard copy and then steal it off the internet and they have something interesting instead of some shitty piece of plastic.

Sean - 10-5-2010 at 12:53 PM

I suppose I would take issue with the statement that vinyl is a "novelty." I just assumed it was the favored format for most people into what Rock'n'Roll Disgrace is putting out. I know it's the prefered format of the people the label works with. Hammer and the Nails' demo was put out on CD, and feedback was overwhelming for vinyl for the actual release. Recouping money isn't really a concern of the band or the label, really. If that were the case, the label wouldn't be doing 'subculture friendly' releases. Believe me, the people who want the Hammer and the Nails record will get it, one way or another.

Vanilla Gorilla - 10-5-2010 at 01:42 PM

I am one of the few that still likes CD's, it's easy to store, and get into mp3 so i can get it on my ipod. but i still do buy some stuff on vinyl.

My only issue with vinyl is i don't have a set up to get vinyl into Mp3 so i can get it on my ipod, i still by some vinyl though. It's great when you can get the vinyl and the company gives you a code for download.

Johnny_Whistle - 10-5-2010 at 01:51 PM

Well I can only speak for my band, but our three CDs sell very well at our shows. And as far as my use of the term "novelty," can you tell me about any record store, with the exception of one that specifically deals in used records, that has a larger vinyl section than a cd section? I live in the Boston area too, with a pretty good mix of large chains and independents, and I can't think of a single one. Vinyl is a novelty these days, whether you and your friends prefer it or not.

Sell the record however you want, it's no skin off my nose. All I did was say that $10 is a lot for five songs, which in this market it is. Is it a wallet-buster? No, probably not. Value for your dollar is all I'm taking about.

And by the way, I still have a ton of old vinyl. I have nothing against it whatsoever.

Sean - 10-5-2010 at 02:28 PM

When I think of shops that sell CDs, I think of Best Buy/Borders. The record shops that I frequent are just that, record shops. But yeah, they are definitely smaller and more specialized. I can't speak for Boston (though I was at In Your Ear a few weeks back and they had zero CDs) but Chicago stores like Reckless (all three locations) Dave's, Reggie's, Dusty Groove, et al are all more heavily populated by vinyl. While I can see a case being made for there being more CDs at larger stores like Newbury, it is just not the case with the majority of the records shops in Chicago. Look at places like VIRGIN and TOWER. Gone the way of the dinosaur. What has prevailed are indie shops and mom & pop places.

Anyway, I'm not trying to argue or sound too combative, or get anyone to shell out for what they feel is too pricey a piece of vinyl, I'm just saying, I wouldn't call it a novelty, especially now that you can get releases from major labels on vinyl these days. When Coldplay put out vinyl, you know it aint dead. But there's no need to argue semantics.

Kind of like you said about vinyl, I have nothing against CDs and own a shit ton of them, but it's just not my prefered format when putting out music or when buying it, really.

I agree with Vanilla Gorilla who said the best thing is when vinyl provides you with a download. That does rule for iPods sake. PAINKILLER Records are great about that, and the new TROUBLE ep comes with a download.

Johnny_Whistle - 10-5-2010 at 02:49 PM

Well again, In Your Ear is a used record shop.

Anyway, again, I wasn't trying to put anyone down or anything, just giving my two cents. For what it's worth, I think it'd be cool if the Gobshites did a vinyl release some day. Although we'd probably make the sleeve in the form of a lamp shade or something...

REV.PAULIE - 10-7-2010 at 04:53 AM

Are the Concrete Gods Lp's available on vinyl?

Mark Lind - 10-7-2010 at 09:19 AM

James William Bottomtooth. HAHA

hammerxnails - 10-7-2010 at 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by REV.PAULIE
Are the Concrete Gods Lp's available on vinyl?

Not sure if they are pressing that on vinyl yet. Definitely a really good record though. They have a new 7 inch coming out on RRD and there is a link here to some "charity single" they did on here too:

http://www.rnrdisgrace.com/

Hammer and the Nails "Overpriced Novelty" EP is sold out for now. Probably have more in a week or two for all the new fans we have made on here.

ShawnRefuse - 10-7-2010 at 10:46 AM

oh well, too late again. LOL. someday I will have one of your releases.

Jim Bottomtooth - 10-7-2010 at 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Mark Lind
James William Bottomtooth. HAHA

What?

REV.PAULIE - 10-8-2010 at 06:00 AM

The 2 Concrete Gods Lp's are friggin' great...I downloaded both (Ilegally,yes...Sue me)...They're the kind of albums I'd really like to have on vinyl..And,I'd pay good money for them,as well.

wez138 - 10-9-2010 at 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by REV.PAULIE
The 2 Concrete Gods Lp's are friggin' great...I downloaded both (Ilegally,yes...Sue me)...They're the kind of albums I'd really like to have on vinyl..And,I'd pay good money for them,as well.

I don't think Dave the guitarist would really care if you downloaded them, He care's more about people enjoying his/there music. Check out Superyob and Evil conduct too.

Vanilla Gorilla - 10-19-2010 at 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by hammerxnails

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Originally posted by DAK
:money:

Yes, these cost money. Now get back to tweeting Ben Weasel about his shitty band.

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I'd order but i've been waiting on some stuff that i ordered for about 7+ months

Send me a PM and I will look into this for you.

PM sent

SAL - 10-20-2010 at 04:37 PM

My favorite part of this award winning thread is the fact that the protagonist does not own a record player. That's some detached-ass posting. Nice.

ShawnRefuse - 10-20-2010 at 05:25 PM

I still think 10 bucks is a lot. That was the original argument.

Am I the protagonist? Or, is it Johnny. Usually I am antagonistic.

Either way, I now have a record player again. Which is great because it's been a few years since I could listen to some stuff that I only had on vinyl (that didn't get trashed in my parents basement flood 8 years ago). Seeing how I don't actually do illegal downloads.

Do you still have that T&tT 7" I asked you to put aside "SAL"? Happy b-day by the way.

hammerxnails - 10-20-2010 at 11:09 PM

I am pushing for them to raise it to 12 bucks just to keep all the riff raff from buying it.

ShawnRefuse - 10-21-2010 at 11:40 PM

make it 20 then it's a collectors item.

Jason the Magnificent - 10-22-2010 at 06:19 AM

That Concrete Gods stuff is amazing...and the Pulp cover was a nice surprise.

hammerxnails - 10-22-2010 at 04:00 PM

Regular release now available:

http://rocknrolldisgracerecords.bigcartel.com/product/hammer...

First 100 on clear wax with a poster of me posing up against a brick wall.

Complain about the price below...

ShawnRefuse - 10-22-2010 at 05:11 PM

nice. I can't wait to hang your pic up in my cubicle. It's a brick wall so, it will feel like you are here with me.

BTW, I am a wiseass, take whatever I say with a few grains of salt. I am ordering it today.

Barnesey - 10-23-2010 at 08:48 PM

I have a record store that stocks new releases. I don't stock cd's any longer and the only ones I have are old stock that I'm trying to sell off online. 99% of what I sell is vinyl. When I did have cd's in the actual storefront they hardly ever sold. I work for another label/record store and it's the same deal. They do stock cd's but not that much because they just don't sell anymore.

Novelty? I've been collecting records for over 25 years now. It's what I dig and I don't see the "novelty" wearing off anytime soon.

I see nothing wrong with $10 for a 12" ep. People will buy em and I'm sure they'll sell out of the pressing. Even after that, the label will MAYBE break even. At this point, anyone putting out records like this is because they love it. There's no money to be made in this scene. Cd's are super cheap to make, it's the only reason people are still releasing them.

hammerxnails - 10-29-2010 at 10:21 AM

36 copies left. Act fast: http://rocknrolldisgracerecords.bigcartel.com/product/hammer...

Vanilla Gorilla - 11-3-2010 at 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hammerxnails
Regular release now available:

http://rocknrolldisgracerecords.bigcartel.com/product/hammer...

First 100 on clear wax with a poster of me posing up against a brick wall.

Complain about the price below...

new pm sent

hammerxnails - 11-9-2010 at 01:10 PM

John Vulture Rock had this to say about the record: "HAMMER++++"

hammerxnails - 11-30-2010 at 12:25 AM

Support the scene...

ShawnRefuse - 11-30-2010 at 07:10 PM

Just got mine in the mail today. Consider scene supported. (at least once)

hammerxnails - 12-15-2010 at 10:14 AM

A few live tracks for free download from our show with Screeching Weasel...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/udigxv

Vox are kinda low but you can karaoke to it at your next fondue party.

hammerxnails - 5-18-2011 at 03:38 PM

Some Russian Communist ripped this so here it is for free. Don't worry, we already made a bundle off the overpriced vinyl.

http://unitedfrontskins.blogspot.com/2011/05/hammer-and-nail...

Go to this Sunday if you are bored:

hammerxnails - 4-4-2012 at 02:39 PM

Support the overpriced collectible import scene.

http://www.interpunk.com/item.cfm?Item=201302&