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[*] posted on 4-16-2007 at 08:44 AM
Any other Tolkien dorks?


http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?ISBN=0618894640&z=y&cds2Pid=9481

What looks the the final book from his manuscripts. I've heard its lot more story-like and less dry and historical than the other posthumous works like the Silmarillion.

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[*] posted on 4-16-2007 at 04:12 PM


I dig Tolkien... actually I dig 'high fantasy' quite a bit. As far as I'm concerned Star Wars is fantasy more than sci-fi.

I'm looking forward to this one... I'm still wading through the Silmarillion, though I love the creation myth element.

Ever read Terry Brooks? He, like many other fantasy authors, lifts directly from Tolkien many themes but he has an interesting twist. His Middle-Earth like place is actually a result of mankind bringing upon itself a nuclear apocalypse and your trolls and gnomes and what not are a result of genetic mutation while elves supposedly pre-existed all of that. It's neat because some of his more recent books... Like High Druid of Shannara ends up mixing fantasy and technology in interesting ways. I haven't gotten around to them, but it's really quite interesting.




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[*] posted on 4-16-2007 at 04:22 PM


I think he wrote that Icewind Dale trilogy didn't he? I started reading that under a high recommendation from a friend and it seems like such a blatant LOTR rip off I couldnt even continue.
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[*] posted on 4-16-2007 at 07:04 PM


No, he wrote Sword of Shannara trilogy(Sword, Elfstones and Wishsong of Shannara), the Heritage of Shanara series(4 books, can't recall the names haven't read 'em yet), First King of Shannara(prequel to the Sword trilogy), Word and Void trilogy, Voyage of the Jerle Shannara trilogy, High Druid of Shannara trilogy and most recently Armegedon's Children which is the first in a series of books linking Word/Void and Shannara. He's done some other stuff too, Magic Kingdom For Sale it's called.

I think it's hard not to take things blatantly from Tolkein because the themes he took are blatantly from old Celtic and Germanic myths and legends and most of that stuff is already part and parcel of human collective unconscious it's impossible to avoid it even when you try to shake it up more than a little bit. I mean, even Star Wars uses most of the same conventions to the point that the early scripts have the character that would become Luke Skywalker trying to get his hands on something called the Kaibur Crystal that amplifies the Force in a person.

I can't begrudge people that really... not unless it is word for word, which according to some authors like Robert Jordan do unceasingly. I've got a few volumes of his Wheel of Time series(talk about fucking long dude... 11 books thus far and each one's about 800 pages long!), haven't gotten around to reading that yet despite having stolen books 1, 4-6 from my study hall in high school in like 1997.

Icewind Dale is by RA Salvatore... good author, but he's usually writing within the whole D&D thing and how can that NOT be LOTR re-hashing??? He wrote a damn good opening to a Star Wars storyline called The New Jedi Order back in 99 though, and unfortunately was tasked with killing off Chewbacca... dude actually got death threats even though it was the publishers that told him to do it.




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