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The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the
future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car
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ok....I'll have to ivnestigate this but where the hell did this info come from? This character/turn of events was never discussed in the show to my
knowledge. I'm calling shenannigans.
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that was just a myspace post i found somewhere.
i'm sure hardcore sopranos fans will check the credits to see if that character is named, then cross reference previous episodes.
the cubscouts reference would be easy to check, that was just last week and is still on demand.
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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at this point, i'm leaning towards the idea that he got killed.
?you probably don?t even hear it when it happens, right??
I think it all stopped - bam - because that abrupt switch to the silent black, blank screen was the moment Tony got killed. The Sopranos was Tony.
Once he died (instantly) the show was over - no need to see the aftermath, the mayhem, the blood, his family, etc. Death. The End.
but, obviously, one can totally argue, that life just goes on from there.
If I fail math, there goes my chance at a good job and a happy life full of hard work.
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I tend to agree with you on the ending.
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That My Space post has me me re think my thoughts on the ending.
It still kinda sucked, but at least it made sense and is extremely relevant if you are a super fan who pays attention.
Fucking David Chase......
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The episode summary from HBO.com, no mention of Tony seeing himself so I'm leaning towards a bad edit. These things are never cryptic, they pretty
much lay out the episode scene for scene without any hidden agendas.
Summary
Directed by: David Chase
Written by: David Chase
"It's like America...I mean this is still where people come to make it. It's a beautiful idea..."
Tony wakes up in the safe house: another day of hiding. That night, he and Paulie sit in the car at the end of the airport runway, watching planes
take off as they wait. Finally, Agent Harris shows up. Tony runs through the snow flurries to join him in his car. He tells Harris he remembered the
name of the bank that the Arabs used. "You just remembered?" Harris asks. Tony counters with a question: if Harris's Brooklyn contact might be able to
tell them where Phil is. "You're over-reaching," Harris ends the conversation.
Tony heads over to visit Carmela and the kids at their hideaway - the estate house Carmela bought for her next remodel. Meadow is on her way out and
AJ is saying goodbye to Rhiannon. Tony tells AJ that Uncle Bobby's funeral is set and he's expected to attend. When AJ questions how that's possible,
given they're all at "Defcon 4," Carmela explains: "There is always a large FBI presence." Indeed, at the burial, the feds are watching the camera
feeds from a nearby van.
At the reception after the funeral, AJ blows up at the shallowness of the conversation at his table, complaining about the dire state of the world.
Jason jokes they should join up "go kill some f**kin' terrorists," and AJ retorts that would be better than watching the "jack-off fantasies on TV of
how we're kicking their ass."
Tony and Benny play cards at the safe house. Anthony Maffei enters with Patsy to deliver an envelope that's "light." When Carlo tells Tony they're
going to visit Silvio at the hospital, Tony says he's got things to do: "My daughter," he says cryptically. "Yesterday it was his gout," notes Benny.
In Little Italy, Butchie and Ray Ray take a call from Phil who's angry at the failure to locate Tony Soprano. Butchie broaches the idea of reaching
out, but Phil shuts him down: there's no going back.
Tony visits Janice at her house. He's the only one who understands her dark sense of humor she insists as they discuss her plans. She wants to make a
go of it with Bobby's kids. As Tony's leaving, he gets a call from Agent Harris: "Multiple calls traced back to a pay phone in Oyster Bay, Long
Island." Tony thanks him for the tip.
Parked in his SUV, AJ and Rhiannon listen to music - and make the move to consummate their friendship. As they are going at it, the car starts smoking
- literally - and the two barely escape before it goes up in flames, exploding as they scramble away.
Tony and Carmela read AJ the riot act for parking his SUV in leaves. "The catalytic converter and the dry vegetation!" shouts Tony. "If there was
children playing in those leaves you'd have run them over?" Carmela adds. AJ pleads his defense: depression. Still, he manages to see the bright side
when told he's not getting a replacement car. "We have to break our dependence on foreign oil."
The Feds, listening in on a wiretap, pick up Tony's call to George, asking him to arrange a sit-down. In an empty warehouse, George brings Tony and
Paulie together with Butchie and Albie and Little Carmine. Tony asks for a location on Phil; they refuse but tell him to do what he has to do.
Promising Tony they'll come to back to him with "a number" to cover Janice's loss, Butchie and Tony shake hands.
The Soprano family returns home and Paulie, Tony and the crew regroup in the back room of the pork store. Paulie is unnerved to see the cat from the
safe house has made the trip. He wants to get rid of it, but Tony insists the cat stay. In the meantime, the guys cruise Oyster Bay, searching for
Phil.
Janice visits Uncle Junior while Uncle Pat is visiting to report the news of Bobby's death, but Junior doesn't seem to know who she is. Later, Pat
reports to Tony that Janice was fishing for Junior's money. But Tony insists Junior can "f**kin' rot."
AJ sits across from with his new female therapist (with legs to rival Melfi's) from the psychiatric hospital. He tells her he's felt "cleansed" since
his car blew up.
Concerned, Paulie calls Tony from the Bing early in the morning when Carlo is a no-show for a meeting. He suggests maybe Butchie's taken out another
ranking guy, but Tony has another theory: Carlo's flipped. When Paulie recalls that Carlo's son Jason was picked up yesterday for selling X, the
theory looks even more plausible.
Carmela is pleasantly surprised to see Meadow's friend Hunter - who she hasn't seen since she was kicked out of college. Now, however, Hunter reports,
she's in her second year of medical school. Carmela abruptly informs Meadow that Patrick and his parents will be there soon to discuss wedding plans.
Over cocktails, Patrick brags that his firm is interested in hiring Meadow out of law school. Tony and Carmela are pleased to hear about the high
starting salary, but Carmela is less pleased with the kinds of cases he works on: "bid riggin. It's got bag men, whores...it's fascinating."
When Paulie catches the cat staring at a photo of Christopher, he gets more spooked, but Tony interrupts him with an offer: to take over skippering
the Cifaretto crew now that Carlo's MIA. Tony says he's honored but has to think about it. Tony, "miffled," gives him time to consider.
Driving, Tony spots AJ jogging and picks him up. AJ announces he's decided to join the army. Tony insists he not do anything just yet. He promptly
reports the news to Carmela and the two pay a visit to AJ's new therapist. The doctor reports that AJ says he wants to "get past the hate...focus it
on the terrorists." Tony quickly starts talking about his own upbringing and his difficult mother, as Carmela rolls her eyes.
Tony takes Meadow out "sake bombing" for a heart to heart about her career. She insists she wants to protect immigrant rights, having been moved by
how Italian-Americans were mistreated. "If I hadn't see you dragged away all those time by the FBI then I'd probably be a boring suburban doctor," she
says. Tony has no response.
Getting out of Patty's car at the gas station to make a call, Phil waves goodbye to his twin grandchildren. Before he can finish making plans, he is
shot in the head. Patty screams and jumps out of the car. Still in drive, the car rolls as she tries to get to the twins but the car runs over Phil's
head. When Agent Harris gets the news that Phil was "popped," he bursts out: "Damn, we're gonna win this thing!"
Carmela and Tony sit AJ down for a talk. They don't want him to join the army but have a counter-offer: he can be a development executive on a
screenplay Tony got from Danny Baldwin that Little Carmine wants to produce. And after getting some real-world experience, Tony will consider
financing his night club. AJ agrees, and also gives in to a new BMW so he can drive to his new job.
Over burgers, Tony's lawyer, Mink, breaks the news that someone's giving grand jury testimony. "So Carlo has flipped," Tony says. Mink puts his
chances of being indicted at 80-90% but assures him "trials are there to be won."
Tony visits Silvio in the hospital, sitting with his comatose consigliere into the night.
At Satriale's Paulie declines Tony's offer to take over from Carlo, saying everyone who's had that gig has died prematurely. Tony ridicules his
superstition - and finally sways him when he says he'll have to give the job to Patsy. "Prick. You always know what to say to me don't you?" says
Paulie as he accepts the job.
Tony goes to visit Junior, watching him from afar before going over to talk to him. He tells Junior that if he remembers where his money is, he should
tell Pat so Tony can hold it in trust for Bobby's kids; it's not fair that Janice should get it. But Junior doesn't know him. Tony tries to jog his
memory: "This thing of ours..." he says, reminding him that he and Tony's father ran North Jersey. "We did?" he perks up. "That's nice." But then
Junior stares into space again and Tony retreats.
Tony is the first to arrive at Holsten's for a family dinner. He sits in a booth and plays a song on the jukebox, watching the door. Carmela enters
and joins him, asking about his meeting with Mink. He tells her Carlo's gonna testify and she takes the news with a sigh. AJ arrives next, complaining
about the more mundane tasks of his job but quotes old advice from his father: "Try to remember the times that were good." Meanwhile, Meadow struggles
to parallel park outside. Customers come and go - a shady looking guy who's been sitting at the counter enters the restroom. Finally parking the car,
Meadow runs inside to join her family, just in time for...
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and there goes the made up nikki leotardo bit, guy just was a "mystery man"
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/111-06092007-1360360....
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Mood: All that scene philosophy never meant a goddamned thing to me
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I wonder if the dvd box set will include alternate endings ?
I'm gonna watch this episode a couple of more times,and then I'm gonna cancel my HBO.After The Sapranos and Deadwood (that ending sucked big
time),there's really nothing else that intrests me.
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You really need to get up on The Wire then. As far as HBO shows top 5 I'd go
1. Sopranos
2. The Wire
3. Deadwood
4. Oz
5. Big Love
You need to watch the Wire from the beginning though. Each episode is great in itself but it's too hard to pick up in the middle.
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the wire is good as fuck
only "cop" show I watch
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Yeah, same here. The Wire is like crack. I would love to see season 5.
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yes The Wire all the way
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http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/sepinwall/index.ssf?/base/c...
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Sopranos Not Bound for Big Screen
By Gina Serpe
Today at 5:20 am
For fans holding out hope that the polarizing ending to the Sopranos series finale was simply the set-up to a big-screen outing for the first family
of crime, creator David Chase has three words for you: Do stop believin'.
The series mastermind turned viewer punching bag has debunked the popular theory that the show's seemingly unresolved ending was meant to serve as a
launching pad for an oft-rumored future film, claiming instead that the don's story?though not necessarily the don himself?was all but dead.
"I don't think about [a movie] much," Chase told the Newark Star-Ledger. "I never say never. An idea could pop into my head where I would go, 'Wow,
that would make a great movie,' but I doubt it.
"I'm not being coy. If something appeared that really made a good Sopranos movie and you could invest in it and everybody else wanted to do it, I
would do it. But I think we've kind of said it and done it."
And then there's the minor issue of Chase and cohorts killing off, in this season alone, many of the key players who would've been expected to appear
in a film version of the show. But that hasn't stopped him from toying with a movie idea in the past.
One potential premise, he told the Star-Ledger, was "going back to a day in 2006 that you didn't see." Under that scenario, some of our favorite offed
mobsters would still be kicking. But, as Chase observed, there would be some logistical issues. Tony's children, for instance, "would be older than
they were [on the show] and you would know that Tony doesn't get killed" so there wouldn't be much suspense.
"It's got problems."
As for that instantly infamous and abrupt final scene, in which Tony Soprano waits at Bloomfield's ice cream parlor for his family to arrive one by
one, all the while tension building as suspicious patrons enter and daughter Meadow struggles to parallel park, Chase could care less about "all the
Monday morning quarterbacking."
While hundreds of viewers spent their Sunday nights alternately phoning their respective cable companies to complain about shoddy service and cursing
Chase's name, the man himself?no fool, clearly?had long since fled the country, having set off for a vacation with his wife in France.
"I have no interest in explaining, defending, reinterpreting or adding to what is there," he told the newspaper of the series-ending, Journey-scored
scene. "I hear some people were very angry and others were not, which is what I expected."
"No one was trying to be audacious, honest to God. We did what we thought we had to do. No one was trying to blow people's minds or thinking, 'Wow,
this'll [tick] them off.'"
Not that he would change the ending in any way or opt to splice in another of the several final scenes that were filmed.
"People get the impression that you're trying to [mess] with them, and it's not true. You're trying to entertain them."
Which, aside from perhaps one overenthusiastic edit job, he did, for six seasons.
"It's been the greatest career experience of my life," Chase said. "There's nothing more in TV that I could say or would want to say."
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